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  • M. Schrijver Offline
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    M. Schrijver
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    wrote on last edited by M. Schrijver
    #8

    Can roadworks or accident in one direction be a cause?

    Just tried to make a route over the US 101 at that place.
    TomTom and Here made the same route. No detour as in your picture.

    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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    • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

      Can roadworks or accident in one direction be a cause?

      Just tried to make a route over the US 101 at that place.
      TomTom and Here made the same route. No detour as in your picture.

      John S Parry Offline
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      John S Parry
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      #9

      @M-Schrijver I’m not sure what you’re looking at. The MRA detour is still there on the 101. I just also just tried the MRA Routeplanner in the app. The same detour appears.

      What’s interesting is that the native HERE app doesn’t show the detour. Maybe MRA has some avoidance on that I’m not aware of. I tried to set up zero avoidances, but who knows.

      MRA Web desktop is my favorite planner. But in cases like this, I switch to another app that I sometimes use. Again, I don’t want to set up odd waypoints in an attempt to trick the route into being useful.

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      • M. Schrijver Offline
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        M. Schrijver
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        #10

        As you can see in my screenshot. The route is made in the direction as you screenshot and is made on the HERE map.
        No devation/reroute

        Screenshot 2025-02-16 22.33.47.png

        Found the cause.
        Change the transport mode from Motor to Car and your problem is solved.

        You can find a lot of topics were people are told to use Car instead of Motor.
        Transport Mode Motor does more damage than it has benefits.

        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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        • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

          As you can see in my screenshot. The route is made in the direction as you screenshot and is made on the HERE map.
          No devation/reroute

          Screenshot 2025-02-16 22.33.47.png

          Found the cause.
          Change the transport mode from Motor to Car and your problem is solved.

          You can find a lot of topics were people are told to use Car instead of Motor.
          Transport Mode Motor does more damage than it has benefits.

          John S Parry Offline
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          John S Parry
          wrote on last edited by
          #11

          @M-Schrijver Thank you! Yes, I can see where this can cause a lot of confusion. I never would have figured this out. I appreciate your help.

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          • M. Schrijver M. Schrijver

            As you can see in my screenshot. The route is made in the direction as you screenshot and is made on the HERE map.
            No devation/reroute

            Screenshot 2025-02-16 22.33.47.png

            Found the cause.
            Change the transport mode from Motor to Car and your problem is solved.

            You can find a lot of topics were people are told to use Car instead of Motor.
            Transport Mode Motor does more damage than it has benefits.

            Leike Lodiers Offline
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            wrote on last edited by
            #12

            @M-Schrijver @Corjan-Meijerink why don't you change the transport button to car/motor for the time being. That would take care of a lot of problem and explaining.

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            • Leike Lodiers Leike Lodiers

              @M-Schrijver @Corjan-Meijerink why don't you change the transport button to car/motor for the time being. That would take care of a lot of problem and explaining.

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              John S Parry
              wrote on last edited by
              #13

              @Leike-Lodiers When in "Car" mode, routes do show a picture of a car and a motorcycle on top of each other for mode. BTW, is there a way to change the mode for routes already created? I can't figure out how to change it for other older routes.

              In any case, when in motorcycle mode, the route calculated in my example is just plain wrong at any level. Different for an explainable reason is OK, but that's not the situation here. What happened in my case is clearly a bug.

              @Corjan-Meijerink, is this on a list of upcoming fixes?

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              • John S Parry John S Parry

                @Leike-Lodiers When in "Car" mode, routes do show a picture of a car and a motorcycle on top of each other for mode. BTW, is there a way to change the mode for routes already created? I can't figure out how to change it for other older routes.

                In any case, when in motorcycle mode, the route calculated in my example is just plain wrong at any level. Different for an explainable reason is OK, but that's not the situation here. What happened in my case is clearly a bug.

                @Corjan-Meijerink, is this on a list of upcoming fixes?

                Corjan Meijerink Offline
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                #14

                @John-S-Parry what exactly would be?

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                • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                  @John-S-Parry what exactly would be?

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                  #15

                  @Corjan-Meijerink The fix?? I guess to calculate the route correctly. Which in this case is a direct line between two points.

                  I'm not sure I understand the why there is confusion. The route I showed was a trip south on a major interstate (US-101) in California. There isn't a scenario I see where it makes logical sense to detour off the interstate to a side road, and then get back on. It doesn't make sense regardless of transportation mode.

                  If in fact there is a reasonable explanation, please share. Otherwise, I don't know how else I'd frame it other than being a route calculation bug.

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                  • John S Parry John S Parry

                    @Leike-Lodiers When in "Car" mode, routes do show a picture of a car and a motorcycle on top of each other for mode. BTW, is there a way to change the mode for routes already created? I can't figure out how to change it for other older routes.

                    In any case, when in motorcycle mode, the route calculated in my example is just plain wrong at any level. Different for an explainable reason is OK, but that's not the situation here. What happened in my case is clearly a bug.

                    @Corjan-Meijerink, is this on a list of upcoming fixes?

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                    #16

                    @John-S-Parry said in Route Makes Unexpected Detour:

                    @Leike-Lodiers When in "Car" mode, routes do show a picture of a car and a motorcycle on top of each other for mode. BTW, is there a way to change the mode for routes already created? I can't figure out how to change it for other older routes.

                    In any case, when in motorcycle mode, the route calculated in my example is just plain wrong at any level. Different for an explainable reason is OK, but that's not the situation here. What happened in my case is clearly a bug.

                    @Corjan-Meijerink, is this on a list of upcoming fixes?

                    Open the route in MRA on your PC and from the left bar menu select 'Route Information' and change it under 'Transport Mode'

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                    • John S Parry John S Parry

                      @Corjan-Meijerink The fix?? I guess to calculate the route correctly. Which in this case is a direct line between two points.

                      I'm not sure I understand the why there is confusion. The route I showed was a trip south on a major interstate (US-101) in California. There isn't a scenario I see where it makes logical sense to detour off the interstate to a side road, and then get back on. It doesn't make sense regardless of transportation mode.

                      If in fact there is a reasonable explanation, please share. Otherwise, I don't know how else I'd frame it other than being a route calculation bug.

                      Corjan Meijerink Offline
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                      Corjan Meijerink
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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #17

                      @John-S-Parry Exactly! Please report it here: https://mapfeedback.here.com/#/report

                      We are not responsible for the HERE route calculation itself.
                      I'll report it too! Makes stuff gets notices quicker 😉
                      I know that for customers it doesn't matter who fixes it, as long it works in MRA but nothing much I can do about this specific case 😞

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                      • Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink

                        @John-S-Parry Exactly! Please report it here: https://mapfeedback.here.com/#/report

                        We are not responsible for the HERE route calculation itself.
                        I'll report it too! Makes stuff gets notices quicker 😉
                        I know that for customers it doesn't matter who fixes it, as long it works in MRA but nothing much I can do about this specific case 😞

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #18

                        @Corjan-Meijerink Thanks for your response. I'll report when time permits.

                        What's interesting is the native HERE app (HERE WeGo), using the motorcycle profile setting, calculates correctly. I'll also try importing into the XT (also HERE) to see what's actually calculated. I don't know why MRA's HERE implementation would be different, but I guess there are complexities in play I don't understand. At least there is a solution I can implement now.

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                        • Rob Kelley Rob Kelley

                          @John-S-Parry said in Route Makes Unexpected Detour:

                          @Leike-Lodiers When in "Car" mode, routes do show a picture of a car and a motorcycle on top of each other for mode. BTW, is there a way to change the mode for routes already created? I can't figure out how to change it for other older routes.

                          In any case, when in motorcycle mode, the route calculated in my example is just plain wrong at any level. Different for an explainable reason is OK, but that's not the situation here. What happened in my case is clearly a bug.

                          @Corjan-Meijerink, is this on a list of upcoming fixes?

                          Open the route in MRA on your PC and from the left bar menu select 'Route Information' and change it under 'Transport Mode'

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                          John S Parry
                          wrote on last edited by John S Parry
                          #19

                          @Rob-Kelley Thanks for pointing me to the right place. 👍

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                          • John S Parry John S Parry

                            @Corjan-Meijerink Thanks for your response. I'll report when time permits.

                            What's interesting is the native HERE app (HERE WeGo), using the motorcycle profile setting, calculates correctly. I'll also try importing into the XT (also HERE) to see what's actually calculated. I don't know why MRA's HERE implementation would be different, but I guess there are complexities in play I don't understand. At least there is a solution I can implement now.

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                            John S Parry
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #20

                            Correction to my previous comment that motorcycle mode routes correctly on the HERE WeGo app. It doesn’t. 😳

                            Car mode routes correctly, while motorcycle has the same issue found in MRA. It’s definitely a HERE bug.

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                            • John S Parry John S Parry

                              Correction to my previous comment that motorcycle mode routes correctly on the HERE WeGo app. It doesn’t. 😳

                              Car mode routes correctly, while motorcycle has the same issue found in MRA. It’s definitely a HERE bug.

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                              wrote on last edited by
                              #21

                              @John-S-Parry perfect, thanks for confirming!

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