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What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?

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  • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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    M. Schrijver
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    I've tested this in Schotland last 10 days. It is not very easy in AA. I will call it nearly impossible. You need to phone to do it properly. That is something i want to avoid.

    When i restart a route after a lunch or some other reason (not resuming). I expect from the navigation that it knows where i am and that it guides me back to the closest point on the route without any user input. No manual skipping waypoints etc.

    I have no touchscreen on my bike and not in my car. I can not zoom in or out in Android Auto. Because of this i do not know what my previous or next routepoint is. In Android Auto you can only skip one routepoint at the time. But where do i need to stop.

    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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    • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

      I've tested this in Schotland last 10 days. It is not very easy in AA. I will call it nearly impossible. You need to phone to do it properly. That is something i want to avoid.

      When i restart a route after a lunch or some other reason (not resuming). I expect from the navigation that it knows where i am and that it guides me back to the closest point on the route without any user input. No manual skipping waypoints etc.

      I have no touchscreen on my bike and not in my car. I can not zoom in or out in Android Auto. Because of this i do not know what my previous or next routepoint is. In Android Auto you can only skip one routepoint at the time. But where do i need to stop.

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      Con Hennekens
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      #22

      @M-Schrijver, No single device does mind reading like you seem to want. I Personally would hate it if my Navigation chose the WP to start start a route, only based on it accidentally being closest. Don't blame the app for your problem of having a crippled AA/CP without touchscreen. If you want ALL functions of the app, just use a smartphone.

      I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

      Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

      Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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        M. Schrijver
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        #23

        You call it crippled. I call it the future.
        I don't want more functionality. I want more intelligence, more logic.

        Every time i speak persons about motorcycle navigatie. It is always the same. Too complicated, Too much options to choose from.
        Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
        This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.

        This is also my goal.

        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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        • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

          You call it crippled. I call it the future.
          I don't want more functionality. I want more intelligence, more logic.

          Every time i speak persons about motorcycle navigatie. It is always the same. Too complicated, Too much options to choose from.
          Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
          This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.

          This is also my goal.

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          #24

          @M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:

          Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
          This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.

          Surprisingly that is usually what happens when I use MyRoute-app Navigation with a well designed route.

          On a more philosophical level: you may want to add AI to make decisions for you, but AI is most likely more stubborn than you (and me, although nearly impossible πŸ˜‰ ). So what we will end up doing is asking for more tools to bypass AI...

          I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

          Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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            @GT-JWR, you are welcome to substantiate your downvote on my previous message πŸ˜‰

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              @M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:

              Most just want one thing. A simple reliable device.
              This means. Put a GPX in the device. Select the route. Press start en ride without any hassle the route exactly like it is created.

              Surprisingly that is usually what happens when I use MyRoute-app Navigation with a well designed route.

              On a more philosophical level: you may want to add AI to make decisions for you, but AI is most likely more stubborn than you (and me, although nearly impossible πŸ˜‰ ). So what we will end up doing is asking for more tools to bypass AI...

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              @Con-Hennekens
              I don't know a proper English word for the Dutch word "Digibeet".

              What i'm looking for is very stable and very reliable navigation software.
              A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.

              MRA Next is not on this level. Something like "Autoskip" does still not work as it should be. In my opinion a function necessary for use without hassle.
              When starting (not resuming) the route somewhere halfway by just pressing "Start" is also without any hassle.
              Even better. Select your route. And start driving. The software will starting navigating by itself. That is without any hassle.

              A well designed route is very important. I understand this very well. When a route is bad. Even the best software will make a mess of it.

              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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              • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                @Con-Hennekens
                I don't know a proper English word for the Dutch word "Digibeet".

                What i'm looking for is very stable and very reliable navigation software.
                A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.

                MRA Next is not on this level. Something like "Autoskip" does still not work as it should be. In my opinion a function necessary for use without hassle.
                When starting (not resuming) the route somewhere halfway by just pressing "Start" is also without any hassle.
                Even better. Select your route. And start driving. The software will starting navigating by itself. That is without any hassle.

                A well designed route is very important. I understand this very well. When a route is bad. Even the best software will make a mess of it.

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                @M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:

                A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.

                This is exactly how AI will conquer us, naive people first. I am all for people thinking for themselves. There is no one-off translation for "digibeet". Usually the term digital (or computer) illiterate is used.

                I guess we completely disagree on this topic. I don't think MyRoute-app Navigation will ever reach the level you are looking for, and that is not a lack of dev skills. If I wanted my navigation to always be right, I could as well be guided by my wife.

                I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                  @M-Schrijver said in What happens if you start a planned route in the middle?:

                  A piece of software which you can trust blindfolded and which even the greatest "digibeet" can use without any hassle and they can trust everytime.

                  This is exactly how AI will conquer us, naive people first. I am all for people thinking for themselves. There is no one-off translation for "digibeet". Usually the term digital (or computer) illiterate is used.

                  I guess we completely disagree on this topic. I don't think MyRoute-app Navigation will ever reach the level you are looking for, and that is not a lack of dev skills. If I wanted my navigation to always be right, I could as well be guided by my wife.

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                  #28

                  @Con-Hennekens πŸ™ˆπŸ™ˆπŸ€£πŸ€£

                  Van Zumo 550 naar Navigator V naar Carpe iter V4b met MRA

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                    @Con-Hennekens πŸ™ˆπŸ™ˆπŸ€£πŸ€£

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                    @Leike-Lodiers, humor is what makes life baerable πŸ˜‰

                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                    Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                      @Leike-Lodiers, humor is what makes life baerable πŸ˜‰

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                      @Con-Hennekens yep fore shore....

                      Van Zumo 550 naar Navigator V naar Carpe iter V4b met MRA

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