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  • jclaudejundefined Offline
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    jclaudej
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    Hi from France,

    I would like to know what is the format of sound by bluetooth because I would used MRA Navigation Next with my motor bike and my Helmet and if I want keep the communication with my passenger. For that the sound format must be output smartphone communication and not music.
    I don't found how manage this point inside MRA Navigation Next,
    Can you help me ?

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    • M. Schrijverundefined Offline
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      M. Schrijver
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      MRA uses the default media channel of your phone. Mostly the A2DP profile is used.
      The profile does not matter that much. Bigger question is: "How does headset and/or phone handle switching between bluetooth channels when they are both active"

      Look in the settings of your headset if there is an option where you can enable the use of 2 bluetooth channels simulanteous. This is a powerful option which can solve some bluetooth connection issues.

      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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        MRA uses the default media channel of your phone. Mostly the A2DP profile is used.
        The profile does not matter that much. Bigger question is: "How does headset and/or phone handle switching between bluetooth channels when they are both active"

        Look in the settings of your headset if there is an option where you can enable the use of 2 bluetooth channels simulanteous. This is a powerful option which can solve some bluetooth connection issues.

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        @M-Schrijver In fact the problem is the priority of communication because if MRA use the same profil that smartphone communication MRAwill be prioritary and I will hear the GPS message when the communication with my passenger is active.
        For exambple with Kurviger and Cruiser it's possible to choice the communication canal. (A2DP or Phone)

        I hope that my explanation are clear for you 😉

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          The profile does not affect this. This is programmed in the software of the headset

          What brand and model headset do you use?

          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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          • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

            The profile does not affect this. This is programmed in the software of the headset

            What brand and model headset do you use?

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            @M-Schrijver
            Thank a lot for your contributions
            I use SENA SMH05FM
            And for example I can't use Google Map or Waze beacause when the communication is open between my wyfe and me I can't received message from these applications

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              According to the manual. Intercom should be interrupted by a mobile phone.

              Try pairing your Phone as a GPS device with A2DP profile. Which is probably the default profile.

              Screenshot 2024-04-28 15.09.00.png

              (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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              • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                According to the manual. Intercom should be interrupted by a mobile phone.

                Try pairing your Phone as a GPS device with A2DP profile. Which is probably the default profile.

                Screenshot 2024-04-28 15.09.00.png

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                @M-Schrijver
                Ok I will test next week 😉

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                • jclaudejundefined jclaudej

                  Hi from France,

                  I would like to know what is the format of sound by bluetooth because I would used MRA Navigation Next with my motor bike and my Helmet and if I want keep the communication with my passenger. For that the sound format must be output smartphone communication and not music.
                  I don't found how manage this point inside MRA Navigation Next,
                  Can you help me ?

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                  @Jacquet-2 I found it depends on which device I connect first, I usually connect my SatNav first then my phone for voice, I I would ensure the BT con phone is connected to headset before opening Navigation Next

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                    I tried different solutions without success because I either have the intercom between our two helmets or the navigation information.

                    An example with Cruiser who manage exit

                    text alternatif

                    Perhaps the new generation of Sena manage this functionnality ?

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                    • jclaudejundefined jclaudej

                      I tried different solutions without success because I either have the intercom between our two helmets or the navigation information.

                      An example with Cruiser who manage exit

                      text alternatif

                      Perhaps the new generation of Sena manage this functionnality ?

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                      @jclaudejIn fact if you have an intercom with "audio multitask" you haven't a problem but with a basic or old intercom this functionality is not possible 😉

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                      • jclaudejundefined jclaudej

                        @jclaudejIn fact if you have an intercom with "audio multitask" you haven't a problem but with a basic or old intercom this functionality is not possible 😉

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                        @jclaudej
                        That function is not available on his headset. But it is the solution.
                        The Sena Spider could be a good budget friendly replacement. Which has Mesh intercom and Audio Multitasking

                        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                        • jclaudejundefined jclaudej

                          Hi from France,

                          I would like to know what is the format of sound by bluetooth because I would used MRA Navigation Next with my motor bike and my Helmet and if I want keep the communication with my passenger. For that the sound format must be output smartphone communication and not music.
                          I don't found how manage this point inside MRA Navigation Next,
                          Can you help me ?

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                          @jclaudej i would install cardo edge on youre helmet. You can communicate with youre duo and connect to two devices, phone and gps..

                          Van Zumo 550 naar Navigator V naar Carpe iter V4b met MRA

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                            @jclaudej i would install cardo edge on youre helmet. You can communicate with youre duo and connect to two devices, phone and gps..

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                            @Lei-Lodiers Hi, thank you for your contribution but I have a bad experience with Cardo especialy with the SAV of this company and I prefer choice à Sena product who help these after the warranty.
                            I think to buy Sena SF4 duo.

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                            • jclaudejundefined jclaudej

                              @Lei-Lodiers Hi, thank you for your contribution but I have a bad experience with Cardo especialy with the SAV of this company and I prefer choice à Sena product who help these after the warranty.
                              I think to buy Sena SF4 duo.

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                              @jclaudej hi I have no experience with sena. We use cardo edge sometimes with a group of 15 bikers and it works flawless. With communication and navigation. Don't now how sena works.... Hope you can answer this in the future... 👍🏻👍🏻

                              Van Zumo 550 naar Navigator V naar Carpe iter V4b met MRA

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                                Sena and Cardo have very simliar functionality in the same price range. But both brands cannot mix with eachother

                                (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                  @Lei-Lodiers Hi, thank you for your contribution but I have a bad experience with Cardo especialy with the SAV of this company and I prefer choice à Sena product who help these after the warranty.
                                  I think to buy Sena SF4 duo.

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                                  M. Schrijver
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                                  @jclaudej
                                  Please do not buy the SF4.
                                  The Spider has mesh for nearly the same price as the SF4.
                                  Take my word. Mesh is the prefered choice for intercom. Even with 2 persons

                                  (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                  • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

                                    @jclaudej
                                    Please do not buy the SF4.
                                    The Spider has mesh for nearly the same price as the SF4.
                                    Take my word. Mesh is the prefered choice for intercom. Even with 2 persons

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                                    @M-Schrijver I use intercom only with my wife who is behind me 😉 so mesh isn't necessary for us.

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                                      Mesh is a part of your solution.
                                      Mesh is advertised as THE intercom for groups. But it is also the better one for two persons compared to Bluetooth intercom.

                                      Therefore the advice.
                                      When you buy a new intercom, ALWAYS buy one with mesh.

                                      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                                        Hi,

                                        I solved my problem with a new Sena Spider ST1 😉

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