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  • Henrik Müllerundefined Henrik Müller

    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

    I dont know the terms NTU or NT maps?

    Why:

    1. Looking at the XT screen the small dots (Via points) are more discrete than the orange pole and flag

    2. As I remember, my XT will give me a verbal notifikation when I use stop points, and having a route with a lot points will give a lot useless information,

    3, The shaping point is the standard point at MRA, changing them into Stop point are not preferable.

    Again, it worked in the Beta version

    My question is why have the MRA team changed it?

    / Henrik

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    @Henrik-Müller

    The flags are the viapoints and they are called by your XT, the small dots are shapingpoints and they where only visible in the XT

    Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
    Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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    • Henrik Müllerundefined Henrik Müller

      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

      I dont know the terms NTU or NT maps?

      Why:

      1. Looking at the XT screen the small dots (Via points) are more discrete than the orange pole and flag

      2. As I remember, my XT will give me a verbal notifikation when I use stop points, and having a route with a lot points will give a lot useless information,

      3, The shaping point is the standard point at MRA, changing them into Stop point are not preferable.

      Again, it worked in the Beta version

      My question is why have the MRA team changed it?

      / Henrik

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      @Henrik-Müller

      You can create your route as usual, with shaping and viapoints, only the viapoints are visible on the XT.
      You can see it as a track with viapoints , but the shapingpoints shape the route.

      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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      • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

        @Henrik-Müller

        You can create your route as usual, with shaping and viapoints, only the viapoints are visible on the XT.
        You can see it as a track with viapoints , but the shapingpoints shape the route.

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        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

        I have to agree with all the other users who are saying that we want to actually see the shaping points (Blue Dots) on the XT map.
        As we could on the XT with the previous Beta version.
        My personal preference is to never use Via Points.
        When I create a new route I don’t know at what point I might need a coffee or at what point in time I am going to get hungry.
        I like to make those decisions whilst actually riding the route.
        What do i do if I want to skip part of the of the route for some reason?
        If we can’t see the shaping points how can we skip them?

        You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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        • Steve Lynchundefined Steve Lynch

          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

          I have to agree with all the other users who are saying that we want to actually see the shaping points (Blue Dots) on the XT map.
          As we could on the XT with the previous Beta version.
          My personal preference is to never use Via Points.
          When I create a new route I don’t know at what point I might need a coffee or at what point in time I am going to get hungry.
          I like to make those decisions whilst actually riding the route.
          What do i do if I want to skip part of the of the route for some reason?
          If we can’t see the shaping points how can we skip them?

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          @Steve-Lynch
          Hi @Steve,

          If you never use waypoints in your route, you can simply use the track gpx 1.1 (Track and POI) or the track sent with the gpx 1.2 and have your Navigati convert it into a journey. Make the track visible and, if you want to skip a part of the route, you can drive back to the planned route.
          The formation points are no longer visible and have already been skipped automatically.

          Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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          • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

            @Steve-Lynch
            Hi @Steve,

            If you never use waypoints in your route, you can simply use the track gpx 1.1 (Track and POI) or the track sent with the gpx 1.2 and have your Navigati convert it into a journey. Make the track visible and, if you want to skip a part of the route, you can drive back to the planned route.
            The formation points are no longer visible and have already been skipped automatically.

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            #15

            @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

            Hi Hans

            Just for clarity it is just Via Points that I never use for the reasons stated above.
            I can still get my shaping points visible by using the 1.0 export and selecting the convert option as below.

            20211031_060637_resized.jpg

            Screenshot_20211031-061342_Gallery.jpg

            You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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            • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

              @Steve-Lynch
              Hi @Steve,

              If you never use waypoints in your route, you can simply use the track gpx 1.1 (Track and POI) or the track sent with the gpx 1.2 and have your Navigati convert it into a journey. Make the track visible and, if you want to skip a part of the route, you can drive back to the planned route.
              The formation points are no longer visible and have already been skipped automatically.

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              #16

              @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master I think you are missing the point that we liked how the beta version worked and the change with the released version is not what we expected. Why can we not have back the previous beta export functionality (blue dots on my XT as well as via/waypoints)? You may not agree but a lot of us liked having these exported and visible for our own different reasons and different nav use.

              Kind Regards. Help where I can.
              Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
              iPhone 15 Pro
              Chigee AIO-5 Play
              Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
              Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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              • Dave J 0undefined Dave J 0

                @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master I think you are missing the point that we liked how the beta version worked and the change with the released version is not what we expected. Why can we not have back the previous beta export functionality (blue dots on my XT as well as via/waypoints)? You may not agree but a lot of us liked having these exported and visible for our own different reasons and different nav use.

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                #17

                @Dave-J-0
                Hi @Dave,

                I understand the question about the formation points, but the choice to change the gpx 1.1 (Beta) is that it can now be used for all Zumo devices with the NTU card (XT, 590, 346, BMW Navigator 6), and there is no need to create a separate gpx file for each Zumo.
                You can only put 29 waypoints in a route today without the Zumo splitting them.
                What do you use the formation points for if I may ask Dave?

                Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                • Dave J 0undefined Dave J 0

                  @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master I think you are missing the point that we liked how the beta version worked and the change with the released version is not what we expected. Why can we not have back the previous beta export functionality (blue dots on my XT as well as via/waypoints)? You may not agree but a lot of us liked having these exported and visible for our own different reasons and different nav use.

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                  #18

                  @Dave-J-0
                  Hi Dave,

                  If you use / import route from the gpx 1.0 and gpx 1.1 into your Zumo, all formation points are seen as waypoints, therefore you will get the message that the route is being split.
                  The advice was always to use the Track. With the release of the XT, the Beta version of the gpx 1.1 was used to test whether
                  the via points could be worked. So the waypoints only worked on the XT, but not on the older Zumos because all formation points were seen as waypoints, and you don't want that either. How Garmin handles this is Garmin's secret and they won't reveal it.

                  I will submit the request for Beta version for the XT to MRA.

                  Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                  Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                  • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                    @Dave-J-0
                    Hi @Dave,

                    I understand the question about the formation points, but the choice to change the gpx 1.1 (Beta) is that it can now be used for all Zumo devices with the NTU card (XT, 590, 346, BMW Navigator 6), and there is no need to create a separate gpx file for each Zumo.
                    You can only put 29 waypoints in a route today without the Zumo splitting them.
                    What do you use the formation points for if I may ask Dave?

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                    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master I use via/flag points as definite stops that I must get too for facilities and RV. The formation/shaping allows me to see the points that I had planned to ‘go through’ but I can skip one or more of these on the device if I need/want with the device then recalculating to the next formation point - I can also see the points on the map overview if I am looking on how many I need/want to skip. Having just a track showing in the background means I have to manually route back to the track further along with the device trying to route me back to the original track and/or next via (not sure as I have not tried live yet). I do have the track on in the background as a safeguard against strange routing calculation that devices can do ‘on the day’ but, for me, a whole level of functionality has been removed by not having the formation/shaping points included in the ‘trip’. I am aware that there is a limit to via/waypoints on Zumo but you can have a large number of formation/shaping points between these via points. I have also had a TomTom previously where track was king but the Zumo works differently and it took me a while to get used to this different approach but I now like it. I hope this all makes sense.

                    I understand that you want a common export for Zumo models but this change from the beta is forcing me to use my device in a backward step way. I am somewhat disappointed with what was released from what I had come to expect from the beta. MRA was my Basecamp(yuk) alternative and it worked well, please find a way to re-implement what we had in the beta.

                    Kind Regards. Help where I can.
                    Ducati Multistrada V4 Rally
                    iPhone 15 Pro
                    Chigee AIO-5 Play
                    Google Pixel 6 Pro - mounted on SP Connect Plus
                    Ex Garmin XT2 and XT1 as well as Ex TomTom Rider User

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                    • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                      @Dave-J-0
                      Hi Dave,

                      If you use / import route from the gpx 1.0 and gpx 1.1 into your Zumo, all formation points are seen as waypoints, therefore you will get the message that the route is being split.
                      The advice was always to use the Track. With the release of the XT, the Beta version of the gpx 1.1 was used to test whether
                      the via points could be worked. So the waypoints only worked on the XT, but not on the older Zumos because all formation points were seen as waypoints, and you don't want that either. How Garmin handles this is Garmin's secret and they won't reveal it.

                      I will submit the request for Beta version for the XT to MRA.

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                      #20

                      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master said in Export 1.2 gpx:

                      I will submit the request for Beta version for the XT to MRA.

                      Thank you Hans. 👍

                      You don’t stop riding when you get old, you get old when you stop riding.

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                        Today I have tested the new GPX 1.2 format with my ZumoXT. If you use this format, the newcalculation must swiched off. Otherwise the route will be destroyed.
                        I have created a route only with shaping point ( points without alarm). After the import into my ZumoXT via Garmin Drive app the route was exactly the same as planned in MRA. Everything looks good. Then I forces the ZumoXT to a new calculation. This ends up with a route from start to destination. In my case from home start to home. The route was only 100 m long.
                        When I use a route in the older beta formart then a new calculation follows the shaping points.
                        Conclusion: MRA shold use the shapingpoints in the GPX 1.2 format.

                        Kindly regards
                        Reinhard

                        ZumoXT, Zumo 590, Montana 700i and Mac

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                        • Reinhard-32undefined Reinhard-32

                          Today I have tested the new GPX 1.2 format with my ZumoXT. If you use this format, the newcalculation must swiched off. Otherwise the route will be destroyed.
                          I have created a route only with shaping point ( points without alarm). After the import into my ZumoXT via Garmin Drive app the route was exactly the same as planned in MRA. Everything looks good. Then I forces the ZumoXT to a new calculation. This ends up with a route from start to destination. In my case from home start to home. The route was only 100 m long.
                          When I use a route in the older beta formart then a new calculation follows the shaping points.
                          Conclusion: MRA shold use the shapingpoints in the GPX 1.2 format.

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                          #22

                          @Reinhard-32

                          Thanks for the reply. If you don't use via-points (point with alarm) then it is better to use the track.

                          Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                            #23

                            Hi all,

                            From the developers, if you don't use via-points, you can use the gpx 1.1 file.
                            I did a small test with a route, starting from home to the first point of the route, with recalculation ON.
                            The route is NOT distroyed, see pictures below: (tack is black in the background)

                            Route exported as Garmin Zumo gpx 1.1, all the shaping points are there.
                            11585.png

                            The route in my XT.
                            12187.png

                            The route, recalculated from my home to the first point on the route:
                            20216.png

                            Only the via-points are not in this file,
                            Special for the users who want via-points (places where you will sop or drive by) is the Garmin Zumo gpx 1.2 file
                            The gpx 1.2 is basicly an Unflagged route

                            Hope this wil help?

                            Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                            Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                              #24

                              Hi all, test in the Zumo 346 gpx 1.1

                              The route with shaping points:
                              8912.png

                              Route as picture:
                              20178.png

                              Option to start the route, DO NOT CHOOSE THE END POINT!, because you wil be directed to the end point.
                              11070.png

                              Choose the starting point of the route!
                              17025.png

                              Directed to the startpoint and the route is not destroyed.
                              25573.png

                              Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                              Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                                Hi all, test in de BMW Navigator 6 with the gpx 1.1 file

                                Route with shaping points:
                                3868.png

                                Route as picture
                                6235.png

                                Start option, choose the start location
                                9718.png

                                route = OK
                                10598.png

                                12821.png

                                14560.png

                                Directed to the start location and route is not destroyed.
                                18122.png

                                Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                                Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                                  Hi all, test in the Zumo 660 with the gpx 1.0 and 1.1 file (same results)

                                  The 660 creates .bmp files, unfortunally this fileformat is not supported on the forum.

                                  The 660 shows all shaping points as via-points (flags)
                                  First drive to the starting point before you start the route, otherwise the route wil be destroyed.

                                  Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                                  Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                                  • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

                                    @Dave-J-0
                                    Hi Dave,

                                    If you use / import route from the gpx 1.0 and gpx 1.1 into your Zumo, all formation points are seen as waypoints, therefore you will get the message that the route is being split.
                                    The advice was always to use the Track. With the release of the XT, the Beta version of the gpx 1.1 was used to test whether
                                    the via points could be worked. So the waypoints only worked on the XT, but not on the older Zumos because all formation points were seen as waypoints, and you don't want that either. How Garmin handles this is Garmin's secret and they won't reveal it.

                                    I will submit the request for Beta version for the XT to MRA.

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                                    @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

                                    I created a new route for testing and testet it last Sunday.

                                    The good news: the route works. But shaping points are not displayed but they are existing. The defined route with all detours shows it.

                                    Unfortunately there are a few points to criticise:

                                    The import in the navigator, - i.e. the time the navigator needs to import the route - is veeeeery slow. A route with 8 viapoints and 29 shaping points needed more than 6 minutes. With Beta 1.2, such a route needed about 30 seconds. ????

                                    Shaping points are not displayed after the import. Neither in the map nor in the list. If I have to make a change in the navigator on the way (e.g. when a street is blocked), how can I change a shaping point into a via point? I can't. I can change a via point into a shaping point in the navigator. The shaping point then will be displayed. The recalculation now takes a few seconds.

                                    The export (Save as) with GPX 1.2 works. In other programmes like Tyre or ITN converter only via points are imported, in kuviger.de via and shaping points. After copying a GPX-file edited by kuviger.de into the Navigator, only Viapoints are displayed again.

                                    Despite all the joy that GPX 1.2 finally works on the Navigator, the lack of shaping points is a clear step backwards. I can only agree: please bring back the shaping points.

                                    Grüße aus dem Schwabenland
                                    Stefan

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                                    • Stefan Trucksäßundefined Stefan Trucksäß

                                      @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master

                                      I created a new route for testing and testet it last Sunday.

                                      The good news: the route works. But shaping points are not displayed but they are existing. The defined route with all detours shows it.

                                      Unfortunately there are a few points to criticise:

                                      The import in the navigator, - i.e. the time the navigator needs to import the route - is veeeeery slow. A route with 8 viapoints and 29 shaping points needed more than 6 minutes. With Beta 1.2, such a route needed about 30 seconds. ????

                                      Shaping points are not displayed after the import. Neither in the map nor in the list. If I have to make a change in the navigator on the way (e.g. when a street is blocked), how can I change a shaping point into a via point? I can't. I can change a via point into a shaping point in the navigator. The shaping point then will be displayed. The recalculation now takes a few seconds.

                                      The export (Save as) with GPX 1.2 works. In other programmes like Tyre or ITN converter only via points are imported, in kuviger.de via and shaping points. After copying a GPX-file edited by kuviger.de into the Navigator, only Viapoints are displayed again.

                                      Despite all the joy that GPX 1.2 finally works on the Navigator, the lack of shaping points is a clear step backwards. I can only agree: please bring back the shaping points.

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                                      @Stefan-Trucksäß

                                      Hallo Stefan,
                                      Lesen Sie sorgfältig, das gpx 1.1 hat sowohl Formation als auch Wegpunkte. Funktioniert nur bei Zumos mit NTU-Karte, also auch beim Navigator 6. An der Langsamkeit des Imports können wir nichts ändern, es hängt vom Gerät ab, wie schnell es die Daten verarbeiten kann.

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                                      Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                                      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                                        @Stefan-Trucksäß

                                        Hallo Stefan,
                                        Lesen Sie sorgfältig, das gpx 1.1 hat sowohl Formation als auch Wegpunkte. Funktioniert nur bei Zumos mit NTU-Karte, also auch beim Navigator 6. An der Langsamkeit des Imports können wir nichts ändern, es hängt vom Gerät ab, wie schnell es die Daten verarbeiten kann.

                                        06.png

                                        07.png

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                                        @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                                        Hello Hans,

                                        GPX 1.1 can transmit shaping points and via points, Obviously. However, when importing GPX 1.1, only shaping points are transferred. I have to change the shaping points into via points manually. Why should I do this when GPX 1.2 transfers BOTH types. The shaping points are there, you just should make them visible and editable again.

                                        Since yesterday I have a Zumo XT. The import is indeed much faster than with Navigator 6.

                                        Grüße aus dem Schwabenland
                                        Stefan

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                                        • Stefan Trucksäßundefined Stefan Trucksäß

                                          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master
                                          Hello Hans,

                                          GPX 1.1 can transmit shaping points and via points, Obviously. However, when importing GPX 1.1, only shaping points are transferred. I have to change the shaping points into via points manually. Why should I do this when GPX 1.2 transfers BOTH types. The shaping points are there, you just should make them visible and editable again.

                                          Since yesterday I have a Zumo XT. The import is indeed much faster than with Navigator 6.

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                                          #30

                                          @Stefan-Trucksäß

                                          When you are in the planner, change a shapingpiont into a viapunt. Then export to the device

                                          Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                                          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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