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  • David Bonner
    David Bonner last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 11:54

    I am confused about the online/offline navigation setting.

    I had previously assumed that the best way to use the app is to download the maps needed for the areas you intend to travel and then to have the app in offline mode during navigation. This would avoid the app having to constantly update the navigation screen, also to avoid problems if there is no internet. However, this mode appears to prevent automatic re-routing to avoid road closures etc. See screenshots of the same route with and without offline navigation - for information there has been no access to the A11 at that particular junction for several weeks.

    So is it better to have the app in online mode for navigation so that the app can re-route if necessary? And presumably such features as upcoming petrol stations etc will be displayed in future updates? But in this mode will the app automatically use the downloaded maps if there is weak signal?

    I am probably missing something obvious, but I would be grateful if somebody could explain to me which is the best way to use the online/offline setting?

    Incidently, I noticed that the ‘Traffic aware route calculation’ option is set to on (ie switch toggled to the right), and route recalculation is working (when online) but the switch is still greyed out and it is not possible to alter it.

    Version 3.2.16, iPhone 13.

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    • Rob Verhoeff
      Rob Verhoeff last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 12:19

      If you have downloaded the maps, it is best to keep the app online. The app will use the downloads for the maps and won't go online. That will undoubtedly save data consumption from your phone plan. However, you will still need an online connection for traffic information. If there is no network coverage, the traffic information will be unavailable, but you can still navigate using the downloaded maps.

      BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
      iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
      Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
      Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

      David Bonner Angelo Greco 2 Replies Last reply 8 Jun 2023, 17:43 Reply Quote 0
      • David Bonner
        David Bonner @Rob Verhoeff last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 12:25

        @Rob-Verhoeff Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification - online it is then!

        Rob Verhoeff 1 Reply Last reply 8 Jun 2023, 12:39 Reply Quote 0
        • Rob Verhoeff
          Rob Verhoeff @David Bonner last edited by Rob Verhoeff 8 Jun 2023, 12:39 8 Jun 2023, 12:39

          @David-Bonner you will see that the small yellow dot in the lower blue box wil disapear when you select online mode.

          BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
          iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
          Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
          Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

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          • David Bonner
            David Bonner @Rob Verhoeff last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 13:25

            @Rob-Verhoeff Yes, thanks I realised that. A useful reminder of which mode is selected - a nice feature!

            Con Hennekens 1 Reply Last reply 8 Jun 2023, 14:43 Reply Quote 0
            • Con Hennekens
              Con Hennekens @David Bonner last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 14:43

              @David-Bonner, Yes it is! 😉 But I think the icon is a bit unlucky it looks like a streetsign...

              @Corjan-Meijerink, I hate to stretch your patience and it is really cosmetic, but if it it could be replaced with a cloud-symbol that would be great. With a strike through for off-line mode and without one for online, I would suggest (that would make the icon permanent).

              I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
              I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Bart De Medts Rob Verhoeff 3 Replies Last reply 8 Jun 2023, 18:07 Reply Quote 0
              • Bart De Medts
                Bart De Medts @Con Hennekens last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 16:41

                @Con-Hennekens yes indeed. Good suggestion!

                Using a DMD-T665 navigation phone on my motorcycle with a SilverFox controller.
                Wireless CarPlay in my car (iPhone 15).

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                • Bart De Medts
                  Bart De Medts @Con Hennekens last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 16:42

                  @Con-Hennekens yes indeed. Good suggestion!

                  Using a DMD-T665 navigation phone on my motorcycle with a SilverFox controller.
                  Wireless CarPlay in my car (iPhone 15).

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                  • Angelo Greco
                    Angelo Greco @Rob Verhoeff last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 17:43

                    @Rob-Verhoeff , so for clarity, to keep the application online the Navigation Setting, Functional Setting, Offline Navigation shouold be set to "OFF". Am I understand this correctly?

                    Bart De Medts Rob Verhoeff 2 Replies Last reply 8 Jun 2023, 17:53 Reply Quote 0
                    • Bart De Medts
                      Bart De Medts @Angelo Greco last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 17:50

                      @Angelo-Greco yes indeed.

                      Using a DMD-T665 navigation phone on my motorcycle with a SilverFox controller.
                      Wireless CarPlay in my car (iPhone 15).

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                      • Rob Verhoeff
                        Rob Verhoeff @Angelo Greco last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 17:53

                        @Angelo-Greco If you select "Offline navigation" in the menu under "Navigation settings" (toggle is green), the app will not use the internet but rely on downloaded maps for navigation. However, you will miss the "traffic-aware route calculation" feature.

                        BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                        iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                        Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                        Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

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                        • Rob Verhoeff
                          Rob Verhoeff @Con Hennekens last edited by Rob Verhoeff 8 Jun 2023, 18:08 8 Jun 2023, 18:07

                          @Corjan-Meijerink, if it it could be replaced with a cloud-symbol that would be great. With a strike through for off-line mode and without one for online, I would suggest (that would make the icon permanent).

                          You're absolutely right. But a cloud symbol could also create confusion and has more to do with data storage rather than an internetconnection. Someone might be mistaken and think that it means weather information cannot be retrieved. What about such an option?

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                          Don't pay attention to the size of the image.

                          BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator V | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                          iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                          Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                          Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Ventura & Monterey)

                          Con Hennekens 1 Reply Last reply 8 Jun 2023, 19:10 Reply Quote 4
                          • Con Hennekens
                            Con Hennekens @Rob Verhoeff last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 19:10

                            @Rob-Verhoeff, Haha, nice! I think cloud stands for internet nowadays, don't you think? Yeah, someday we will probably get some weather layer, then we can use a sunny icon maybe 😉

                            I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
                            I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                            • Calibos
                              Calibos last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 19:15

                              I propose this one it is quite telling
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                              • richtea999
                                richtea999 last edited by richtea999 8 Jun 2023, 19:38 8 Jun 2023, 19:36

                                They need to be small but easily recognisable. These are pretty standard symbols (see Apple Mac) and low enough resolution to be easy to create / colour:

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                                Or:

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                                (Courtesy of icons8.com)

                                Bart De Medts 1 Reply Last reply 8 Jun 2023, 21:09 Reply Quote 0
                                • Bart De Medts
                                  Bart De Medts @richtea999 last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 21:09

                                  @richtea999 yes, I like these!

                                  Using a DMD-T665 navigation phone on my motorcycle with a SilverFox controller.
                                  Wireless CarPlay in my car (iPhone 15).

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                                  • Corjan Meijerink
                                    Corjan Meijerink administrator last edited by Corjan Meijerink 8 Jun 2023, 21:33 8 Jun 2023, 21:14

                                    Funny thing is: we do use the official material design icon for mobile data off (https://fonts.google.com/icons?selected=Material Symbols Outlined%3Amobiledata_off%3AFILL%400%3Bwght%40400%3BGRAD%400%3Bopsz%4048)

                                    There are quite some other options too.
                                    Just remember for now that no icon is online and a (this) icon there is offline 😉

                                    I’ll give it another look but not a very high priority at this point 😉

                                    Bart De Medts Con Hennekens 2 Replies Last reply 9 Jun 2023, 07:23 Reply Quote 1
                                    • Bart De Medts
                                      Bart De Medts @Corjan Meijerink last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 21:32

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink no icon is online you mean 😉

                                      Using a DMD-T665 navigation phone on my motorcycle with a SilverFox controller.
                                      Wireless CarPlay in my car (iPhone 15).

                                      Corjan Meijerink 1 Reply Last reply 8 Jun 2023, 21:34 Reply Quote 0
                                      • Corjan Meijerink
                                        Corjan Meijerink administrator @Bart De Medts last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 21:34

                                        @Bart-DM thanks! Edited my response 🙂 I should go sleep hahah

                                        Bart De Medts 1 Reply Last reply 8 Jun 2023, 21:34 Reply Quote 1
                                        • Bart De Medts
                                          Bart De Medts @Corjan Meijerink last edited by 8 Jun 2023, 21:34

                                          @Corjan-Meijerink have a good night 😴

                                          Using a DMD-T665 navigation phone on my motorcycle with a SilverFox controller.
                                          Wireless CarPlay in my car (iPhone 15).

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