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  • David Bonnerundefined Offline
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    David Bonner
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    I am confused about the online/offline navigation setting.

    I had previously assumed that the best way to use the app is to download the maps needed for the areas you intend to travel and then to have the app in offline mode during navigation. This would avoid the app having to constantly update the navigation screen, also to avoid problems if there is no internet. However, this mode appears to prevent automatic re-routing to avoid road closures etc. See screenshots of the same route with and without offline navigation - for information there has been no access to the A11 at that particular junction for several weeks.

    So is it better to have the app in online mode for navigation so that the app can re-route if necessary? And presumably such features as upcoming petrol stations etc will be displayed in future updates? But in this mode will the app automatically use the downloaded maps if there is weak signal?

    I am probably missing something obvious, but I would be grateful if somebody could explain to me which is the best way to use the online/offline setting?

    Incidently, I noticed that the ‘Traffic aware route calculation’ option is set to on (ie switch toggled to the right), and route recalculation is working (when online) but the switch is still greyed out and it is not possible to alter it.

    Version 3.2.16, iPhone 13.

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    • Rob Verhoeffundefined Online
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      Rob Verhoeff
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      #2

      If you have downloaded the maps, it is best to keep the app online. The app will use the downloads for the maps and won't go online. That will undoubtedly save data consumption from your phone plan. However, you will still need an online connection for traffic information. If there is no network coverage, the traffic information will be unavailable, but you can still navigate using the downloaded maps.

      BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
      iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
      Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
      Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Sequoia & Monterey)

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      • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

        If you have downloaded the maps, it is best to keep the app online. The app will use the downloads for the maps and won't go online. That will undoubtedly save data consumption from your phone plan. However, you will still need an online connection for traffic information. If there is no network coverage, the traffic information will be unavailable, but you can still navigate using the downloaded maps.

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        David Bonner
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        #3

        @Rob-Verhoeff Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification - online it is then!

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        • David Bonnerundefined David Bonner

          @Rob-Verhoeff Ok, that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification - online it is then!

          Rob Verhoeffundefined Online
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          Rob Verhoeff
          Alpha tester
          wrote on last edited by Rob Verhoeff
          #4

          @David-Bonner you will see that the small yellow dot in the lower blue box wil disapear when you select online mode.

          BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
          iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
          Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
          Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Sequoia & Monterey)

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          • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

            @David-Bonner you will see that the small yellow dot in the lower blue box wil disapear when you select online mode.

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            David Bonner
            wrote on last edited by
            #5

            @Rob-Verhoeff Yes, thanks I realised that. A useful reminder of which mode is selected - a nice feature!

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            • David Bonnerundefined David Bonner

              @Rob-Verhoeff Yes, thanks I realised that. A useful reminder of which mode is selected - a nice feature!

              Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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              Con Hennekens
              Alpha tester
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              @David-Bonner, Yes it is! 😉 But I think the icon is a bit unlucky it looks like a streetsign...

              @Corjan-Meijerink, I hate to stretch your patience and it is really cosmetic, but if it it could be replaced with a cloud-symbol that would be great. With a strike through for off-line mode and without one for online, I would suggest (that would make the icon permanent).

              I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

              Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

              Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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              • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                @David-Bonner, Yes it is! 😉 But I think the icon is a bit unlucky it looks like a streetsign...

                @Corjan-Meijerink, I hate to stretch your patience and it is really cosmetic, but if it it could be replaced with a cloud-symbol that would be great. With a strike through for off-line mode and without one for online, I would suggest (that would make the icon permanent).

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                Bart De Medts
                Alpha tester
                wrote on last edited by
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                @Con-Hennekens yes indeed. Good suggestion!

                🏍️ Motorcycle: DMD-T665 + SilverFox controller
                🚗 Car: iPhone 15 Pro with wireless Apple CarPlay

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                • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                  @David-Bonner, Yes it is! 😉 But I think the icon is a bit unlucky it looks like a streetsign...

                  @Corjan-Meijerink, I hate to stretch your patience and it is really cosmetic, but if it it could be replaced with a cloud-symbol that would be great. With a strike through for off-line mode and without one for online, I would suggest (that would make the icon permanent).

                  Bart De Medtsundefined Offline
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                  Bart De Medts
                  Alpha tester
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #8

                  @Con-Hennekens yes indeed. Good suggestion!

                  🏍️ Motorcycle: DMD-T665 + SilverFox controller
                  🚗 Car: iPhone 15 Pro with wireless Apple CarPlay

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                  • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                    If you have downloaded the maps, it is best to keep the app online. The app will use the downloads for the maps and won't go online. That will undoubtedly save data consumption from your phone plan. However, you will still need an online connection for traffic information. If there is no network coverage, the traffic information will be unavailable, but you can still navigate using the downloaded maps.

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                    Angelo Greco
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                    @Rob-Verhoeff , so for clarity, to keep the application online the Navigation Setting, Functional Setting, Offline Navigation shouold be set to "OFF". Am I understand this correctly?

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                    • Angelo Grecoundefined Angelo Greco

                      @Rob-Verhoeff , so for clarity, to keep the application online the Navigation Setting, Functional Setting, Offline Navigation shouold be set to "OFF". Am I understand this correctly?

                      Bart De Medtsundefined Offline
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                      Bart De Medts
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                      wrote on last edited by
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                      @Angelo-Greco yes indeed.

                      🏍️ Motorcycle: DMD-T665 + SilverFox controller
                      🚗 Car: iPhone 15 Pro with wireless Apple CarPlay

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                      • Angelo Grecoundefined Angelo Greco

                        @Rob-Verhoeff , so for clarity, to keep the application online the Navigation Setting, Functional Setting, Offline Navigation shouold be set to "OFF". Am I understand this correctly?

                        Rob Verhoeffundefined Online
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                        Rob Verhoeff
                        Alpha tester
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #11

                        @Angelo-Greco If you select "Offline navigation" in the menu under "Navigation settings" (toggle is green), the app will not use the internet but rely on downloaded maps for navigation. However, you will miss the "traffic-aware route calculation" feature.

                        BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                        iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                        Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                        Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Sequoia & Monterey)

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                        • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                          @David-Bonner, Yes it is! 😉 But I think the icon is a bit unlucky it looks like a streetsign...

                          @Corjan-Meijerink, I hate to stretch your patience and it is really cosmetic, but if it it could be replaced with a cloud-symbol that would be great. With a strike through for off-line mode and without one for online, I would suggest (that would make the icon permanent).

                          Rob Verhoeffundefined Online
                          Rob Verhoeffundefined Online
                          Rob Verhoeff
                          Alpha tester
                          wrote on last edited by Rob Verhoeff
                          #12

                          @Corjan-Meijerink, if it it could be replaced with a cloud-symbol that would be great. With a strike through for off-line mode and without one for online, I would suggest (that would make the icon permanent).

                          You're absolutely right. But a cloud symbol could also create confusion and has more to do with data storage rather than an internetconnection. Someone might be mistaken and think that it means weather information cannot be retrieved. What about such an option?

                          Scherm­afbeelding 2023-06-08 om 20.02.19.png

                          Don't pay attention to the size of the image.

                          BMW K1600GT-P (2013) with BMW Navigator | Nolan N100-5 with Sena 30K
                          iOS on iPhone 13 (mounted on Quadlock)
                          Apple CarPlay in VW T-Roc (wired)
                          Routelab on MacBook Air & iMac (Sequoia & Monterey)

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                          • Rob Verhoeffundefined Rob Verhoeff

                            @Corjan-Meijerink, if it it could be replaced with a cloud-symbol that would be great. With a strike through for off-line mode and without one for online, I would suggest (that would make the icon permanent).

                            You're absolutely right. But a cloud symbol could also create confusion and has more to do with data storage rather than an internetconnection. Someone might be mistaken and think that it means weather information cannot be retrieved. What about such an option?

                            Scherm­afbeelding 2023-06-08 om 20.02.19.png

                            Don't pay attention to the size of the image.

                            Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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                            Con Hennekens
                            Alpha tester
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #13

                            @Rob-Verhoeff, Haha, nice! I think cloud stands for internet nowadays, don't you think? Yeah, someday we will probably get some weather layer, then we can use a sunny icon maybe 😉

                            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

                            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

                            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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                            • Calibosundefined Offline
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                              I propose this one it is quite telling
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                                richtea999
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                                wrote on last edited by richtea999
                                #15

                                They need to be small but easily recognisable. These are pretty standard symbols (see Apple Mac) and low enough resolution to be easy to create / colour:

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                                Or:

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                                (Courtesy of icons8.com)

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                                • richtea999undefined richtea999

                                  They need to be small but easily recognisable. These are pretty standard symbols (see Apple Mac) and low enough resolution to be easy to create / colour:

                                  alt text

                                  Or:

                                  alt text

                                  (Courtesy of icons8.com)

                                  Bart De Medtsundefined Offline
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                                  Bart De Medts
                                  Alpha tester
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #16

                                  @richtea999 yes, I like these!

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                                  • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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                                    wrote on last edited by Corjan Meijerink
                                    #17

                                    Funny thing is: we do use the official material design icon for mobile data off (https://fonts.google.com/icons?selected=Material Symbols Outlined%3Amobiledata_off%3AFILL%400%3Bwght%40400%3BGRAD%400%3Bopsz%4048)

                                    There are quite some other options too.
                                    Just remember for now that no icon is online and a (this) icon there is offline 😉

                                    I’ll give it another look but not a very high priority at this point 😉

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                                    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                      Funny thing is: we do use the official material design icon for mobile data off (https://fonts.google.com/icons?selected=Material Symbols Outlined%3Amobiledata_off%3AFILL%400%3Bwght%40400%3BGRAD%400%3Bopsz%4048)

                                      There are quite some other options too.
                                      Just remember for now that no icon is online and a (this) icon there is offline 😉

                                      I’ll give it another look but not a very high priority at this point 😉

                                      Bart De Medtsundefined Offline
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                                      Bart De Medts
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                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #18

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink no icon is online you mean 😉

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                                      • Bart De Medtsundefined Bart De Medts

                                        @Corjan-Meijerink no icon is online you mean 😉

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                                        @Bart-DM thanks! Edited my response 🙂 I should go sleep hahah

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                                        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                                          @Bart-DM thanks! Edited my response 🙂 I should go sleep hahah

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                                          @Corjan-Meijerink have a good night 😴

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