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    • Corjan Meijerink
      Corjan Meijerink administrator last edited by Corjan Meijerink

      The long awaited day is here ๐ŸŽ‰
      Ladies and babies, big children, little children, even the gentlemen - every single one of them, we present to you Android Auto! ๐Ÿ˜

      The update will most likely be available at the end of today!

      Android Auto
      It has been promised to you long ago. The wait has been long and a lot of questions were asked about this. After almost every CarPlay related (or generic update) post on Facebook a response would be "when is Android Auto available?". That carried on for years ๐Ÿ˜ž
      Today, Android Auto & MyRoute-app have finally joined in marriage.

      android_auto.png

      What can you expect from this update?

      • An initial release which for the first time will be tested by a greater audience. Meaning that there are chances you will encounter an issue somewhere down the road ๐Ÿ˜‰
      • As with CarPlay, it's not finished yet. A lot of features are still missing (speed indicators, camera warnings, waypoint information etc...). We know! ๐Ÿ™‚ Now that both platforms have been released we can continue adding those features.
      • Important note: you must have the Beta opened on your phone when connecting to Android Auto. Launching the app from Android Auto when the app is completed closed doesn't work yet.

      Have you read the above? Good!

      We truly hope you are fascinated by finally having MyRoute-app available on Android Auto. We know it's not done yet and will continue adding features over the future weeks. Given the upcoming release and existing (more pressing) issues / requests we are not sure yet what the exact scope will be of this.

      Landscape improvements
      I'd personally like to thank @Dave-J-0, @Con-Hennekens & @StefanHummelink for their great contributions here: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/4043/landscape-layout-suggestion
      Thanks โค

      Based on a fun weekend and some conversations with them, we've update the landscape UI in this update. For the full discussion, feel free to read that post. For now all you need to know: we've tried to improve the landscape experience yet again.

      2e1f3dfc-1904-4efa-85ba-fbc1cd8e890a-update.png

      • upcoming street is a little less wide
      • upcoming street can be hidden completely (go to Navigation Settings > Screen layout to configure this)
      • upcoming waypoint box moved to top right
      • added opacity to upcoming waypoint to ensure map / route behind can still be seen
      • speed indicators moved next to eta information
      • moved position indicator a little more back towards the center

      In the original post, some future designs have also been shared. That really is for the future. We hope that at this stage you are even more happy with these designs implemented ๐Ÿ˜ƒ

      Offline available routes (downloads)
      When you do not have internet and you'd open "Routes" you would only see an error message. We've added a button allowing you to open your downloads. If you click "Last route" and don't have internet, you can also directly jump to your downloads.

      When downloading a route, the "Make offline available" option is now the first one.

      Yes, our ambition is to add full offline support (automatically) for all your routes & folders. This is however quite a lot of work and will be something for the future ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Skip waypoint algorithm
      In the last update we've added the feature to automatically skip waypoints. Thanks to your feedback we've made the following changes to the algorithm.

      • Waypoints more than 20km away will never be skipped automatically. This has been added because people enjoyed the "skip waypoint after x recalculations" but on long stretches you'd sometimes have a few recalculations resulting in undesired skips.
      • We improved the logic for selecting the new waypoint after triggering the auto-skip. In the previous version the algorithm would always skip a maximum of one waypoint. This was the safer option but also resulted in a very constrained algorithm. In this version, the algorithm will simply search for the next nearest waypoint when the auto-skip algorithm has been triggered ๐Ÿ˜

      Minor issues fixed

      • Some setting screens could not be scrolled causing some settings to be unreachable in landscape mode
      • Changed the color of the route progress line
      • CarPlay: fixed issue where two positions would appear on the map after switching between apps
      • CarPlay: fixed issue where the route line & position would not be aligned properly on the screen

      Looking forward to your feedback! ๐ŸŽ‰

      For those interested, tonight (20:00) we have a zoom meeting for Beta testers where we get to virtually meet each other. The meeting URL will be shared in the following post tonight: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/4004/webinar-zoom-meeting

      Best,
      Team MRA ๐Ÿ‘‹

      Con Hennekens Bart De Medts MarcM Marinus van Deudekom 4 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 9
      • Jรถrgen
        Jรถrgen Instructor last edited by

        Wow, that looks like nice work. Again well done TEAM!!!

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        • Con Hennekens
          Con Hennekens @Corjan Meijerink last edited by Con Hennekens

          @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v3.2.15) Android Auto!:

          Haha the Friday-update on this Pseudo-Friday (due to the local Holiday tomorrow and the many people having a day off on Friday because of that). That's a blast! ๐Ÿ‘

          n this version, the algorithm will simply search for the next nearest waypoint when the auto-skip algorithm has been triggered

          Ooeh... Will the autoskip of e.g. wp5 cause the next wp to be 15 if 15 happens to be closest to wp5? I suspect a lot of problems with routes that have crossing routelines in that case...

          For example this:
          cf4dce10-327a-4421-8808-4eb05ffc391a-image.png

          If I autoskip either 12 or 13, 49 will be the closest wp ahead in the route. But that would lead to skipping half the route. That cannot be the intended behavior.

          Other updates and options look absolutely great. No update on the offline-map updates yet?

          I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
          I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

          Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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          • Corjan Meijerink
            Corjan Meijerink administrator @Con Hennekens last edited by Corjan Meijerink

            @Con-Hennekens said in New Beta! (v3.2.15) Android Auto!:

            Ooeh... Will the autoskip of e.g. wp5 cause the next wp to be 15 if 15 happens to be closest to wp5? I suspect a lot of problems with routes that have crossing routelines in that case...

            No definitely not! Good addition

            next nearest waypoint

            refers to the waypoint with actual route calculation taking the remaining waypoints into account ๐Ÿ˜‰

            55513dcc-1251-4811-a857-c59e53f92584-image.png

            In the above image:

            • you pass waypoint 3
            • you continue straight (ignore 4 & 5)
            • you currently are at the black waypoint add icon
            • algorithm triggered
            • distance to 4 (from position) has length x
            • distance to 5 (from position) has length y which is shorter than x
            • distance to 6 (from position) has length z which is shorter than y
            • distance to 7 (from position) is longer! (not even visible on map)
            • then the algorithm will choose waypoint 6 as next waypoint.
            • it won't ever choose 8 as next one! Yes, that one has a shortest distance from the current position if you draw a straight line ๐Ÿ˜‰ But we take the actual route calculation into account.

            Hope that helps! ๐Ÿ™‚
            Great question. We are curious about the feedback.
            After testing the experience is that this provides better results than the first iteration.

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            • Bart De Medts
              Bart De Medts @Corjan Meijerink last edited by

              @Corjan-Meijerink thx 4 the update. Have a nice weekend!

              Using a DMD-T665 navigation phone on my motorcycle with a SilverFox controller.
              Wireless CarPlay in my car (iPhone 15).

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              • Con Hennekens
                Con Hennekens @Corjan Meijerink last edited by

                @Corjan-Meijerink, Ahh! That's great! I am relieved about that ๐Ÿ˜‰
                (your message and me adding the example crossed, but you understood exactly what I meant). Thanks!

                I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
                I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                • Corjan Meijerink
                  Corjan Meijerink administrator @Con Hennekens last edited by

                  @Con-Hennekens we sync well ๐Ÿ˜‰
                  Looking forward to the meeting tonight

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                  • Con Hennekens
                    Con Hennekens @Corjan Meijerink last edited by

                    @Corjan-Meijerink, Haha, yeas we do!
                    Still one question about the example I added above: Let's say at WP13 I decided to turn right, instead of left towards 14. Would the algorithm direct me to WP49 when I hit the route between 48 and 49?

                    I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
                    I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                    • Corjan Meijerink
                      Corjan Meijerink administrator last edited by

                      @Con-Hennekens No for sure not! ๐Ÿ™‚
                      The distance from your position to 14 would still be shorter than to 15 so it will most likely reroute you to 14 (unchanged) ๐Ÿ˜‰

                      If WP 14 would not exist, the following would happen (after recalculation passing 13):

                      • position to 15 distance x
                      • position to 16 distance y which is shorter (at least it seems to be)
                      • position to 17 is shorter again
                      • position to 18 is more!
                      • rerouting to 17

                      If however any of those waypoints would be via points or the distance from recalculation to 15 would be greater than 20km the algorithm behavior would be different ๐Ÿ˜‰ Also at least 2 recalculations need to take place before the algorithm may even start etc etc etc.... ๐Ÿ˜›

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                      • Con Hennekens
                        Con Hennekens @Corjan Meijerink last edited by

                        @Corjan-Meijerink, Great thinking!

                        I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
                        I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

                        Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                        • Stefan Hummelink
                          Stefan Hummelink @Corjan Meijerink last edited by

                          @Corjan-Meijerink ooohhh a very promising algorithm! Can't wait to test it this sunday. ๐Ÿ™‚

                          Next up: the notorious positional delay ๐Ÿ˜? #Daretoask.

                          Manks bu'j te bange.

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                          • Corjan Meijerink
                            Corjan Meijerink administrator @Stefan Hummelink last edited by

                            @StefanHummelink is it mentioned? ๐Ÿ˜‰
                            Status unchanged - internally we are working on some improvements but the core lies with HERE and we are still hoping they can improve the behaviour.

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                            • Bart De Medts
                              Bart De Medts @Corjan Meijerink last edited by

                              @Corjan-Meijerink Is it an idea to make the navigation arrow slightly forward by default? There are well-known navigation apps that do this ๐Ÿ˜‰

                              Using a DMD-T665 navigation phone on my motorcycle with a SilverFox controller.
                              Wireless CarPlay in my car (iPhone 15).

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                              • Corjan Meijerink
                                Corjan Meijerink administrator @Bart De Medts last edited by

                                @Bart-DM smart boy ๐Ÿค“ This is exactly what we already do. One of the solutions we are working on internally is to move your location forward even more but that's not as easy as it may seem. You still want the position indicator to be on the road, take turns into consideration, account for speed etc ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                                • Stefan Hummelink
                                  Stefan Hummelink @Corjan Meijerink last edited by

                                  @Corjan-Meijerink said in New Beta! (v3.2.15) Android Auto!:

                                  @StefanHummelink is it mentioned? ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                  ...still hoping they can improve the behaviour...

                                  Ehhhhh ... Quite honestly do not know what to answer to this rather scary statement. ๐Ÿ˜ญ

                                  Back to the upside of this great update. โ™ฅ๏ธ

                                  Manks bu'j te bange.

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                                  • Corjan Meijerink
                                    Corjan Meijerink administrator @Stefan Hummelink last edited by

                                    @StefanHummelink hahaha, no worries. It is top priority for us.
                                    Yet, it's not that interesting for testing. Once fixed, it's fixed! ๐Ÿ˜„
                                    Other things require feedback and therefore move up in the release chain.

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                                    • Koen VH
                                      Koen VH @Corjan Meijerink last edited by

                                      @Corjan-Meijerink Thanks again for this wonderfull update! The skip waypoint algoritme will be tested thoroughly ๐Ÿ˜Š ๐Ÿ’ช

                                      iPhone SE (2020) - Outikel RT3 (Android 12)

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                                      • Frank 23
                                        Frank 23 last edited by

                                        I can't update to the newest version. Last updates were successful. But the app doesn't give me the option to update this time

                                        Oneplus Nord, android 12

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                                        • Bart De Medts
                                          Bart De Medts @Corjan Meijerink last edited by

                                          @Corjan-Meijerink No one said it would be easy ๐Ÿ˜›

                                          Using a DMD-T665 navigation phone on my motorcycle with a SilverFox controller.
                                          Wireless CarPlay in my car (iPhone 15).

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                                          • Corjan Meijerink
                                            Corjan Meijerink administrator @Frank 23 last edited by

                                            @Frank-23

                                            New Beta! (v3.2.15) Android Auto!:

                                            The update will most likely be available at the end of today!

                                            Let's give it a few more hours. iOS is available, Android is still processing.

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