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How to?: Modify a "Route-Track"

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  • KME Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
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    Hi,

    Does anybody know if it is possible to modify a downloaded Track with MRA gold?

    Context:
    I'm trying to use parts of a TET track that i've uploaded in MRA. I can ofcourse choose "Edit route track" but, this automatically places waypoints on the route line and makes a "Route" out of it, which completely destroys the offroad section.

    I already tried to somehowe import the downloaded Track in the route editor (Routing Options: Offroad) but, that is not an option.

    Any tips are welcome.
    Regards, Korneel

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    • KME KME

      Hi,

      Does anybody know if it is possible to modify a downloaded Track with MRA gold?

      Context:
      I'm trying to use parts of a TET track that i've uploaded in MRA. I can ofcourse choose "Edit route track" but, this automatically places waypoints on the route line and makes a "Route" out of it, which completely destroys the offroad section.

      I already tried to somehowe import the downloaded Track in the route editor (Routing Options: Offroad) but, that is not an option.

      Any tips are welcome.
      Regards, Korneel

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      Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
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      wrote on last edited by
      #2

      @kme
      Hello Korneel,
      The fact that the TET-Track is adjusted is because the route is calculated via the routing settings of the chosen map.
      What you can do is:
      Open the Track
      Click on use route
      A route is created from the track with waypoints.
      Click on the 2nd route point and then click on the 3 dots to open the route point menu.
      Then choose the skip option.
      If you make the track visible via the left menu, you can set the waypoints so that it follows the track, but set every waypoint to skip.

      Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
      Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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      • Hans van de Ven MR.MRA Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

        @kme
        Hello Korneel,
        The fact that the TET-Track is adjusted is because the route is calculated via the routing settings of the chosen map.
        What you can do is:
        Open the Track
        Click on use route
        A route is created from the track with waypoints.
        Click on the 2nd route point and then click on the 3 dots to open the route point menu.
        Then choose the skip option.
        If you make the track visible via the left menu, you can set the waypoints so that it follows the track, but set every waypoint to skip.

        KME Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
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        @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master
        Hi Hans,
        Thanks for your reply, however the method doesn't work (or I'm doing something wrong).

        This is one of the original Tracks (TET Spain Section 005) that I want to modify (and later combine with ohter Tracks section) in MRA:
        908f79df-cae2-406e-bd6b-fcf8fd0b460a-image.png

        When choosing <+ Edit route track> and <Routing options --> Offroad> MRA makes this:
        97ea225f-c2da-4749-9e65-d8ffadc871f8-image.png

        Now lets say I save this Route as a Track again and upload that to my Garmin (which I just use to plot a line of the Track on the map, so no route calculations / guidance or anything)... than the plotted Track is way too coarse. Meaning you'll end up searching / gambling on every junction and potentially missing the scenic route.

        Below an example:

        Actual Track before editing in MRA:
        f0d6007d-ed5a-4a13-b092-4ab95e2abe73-image.png

        Track after editing in MRA:
        b553ec78-4b38-437f-a66a-e411c5c676aa-image.png

        Any idea how this could be solved?

        Steve Lynch Hans van de Ven MR.MRA 2 Replies Last reply
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        • KME KME

          @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master
          Hi Hans,
          Thanks for your reply, however the method doesn't work (or I'm doing something wrong).

          This is one of the original Tracks (TET Spain Section 005) that I want to modify (and later combine with ohter Tracks section) in MRA:
          908f79df-cae2-406e-bd6b-fcf8fd0b460a-image.png

          When choosing <+ Edit route track> and <Routing options --> Offroad> MRA makes this:
          97ea225f-c2da-4749-9e65-d8ffadc871f8-image.png

          Now lets say I save this Route as a Track again and upload that to my Garmin (which I just use to plot a line of the Track on the map, so no route calculations / guidance or anything)... than the plotted Track is way too coarse. Meaning you'll end up searching / gambling on every junction and potentially missing the scenic route.

          Below an example:

          Actual Track before editing in MRA:
          f0d6007d-ed5a-4a13-b092-4ab95e2abe73-image.png

          Track after editing in MRA:
          b553ec78-4b38-437f-a66a-e411c5c676aa-image.png

          Any idea how this could be solved?

          Steve Lynch Offline
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          Steve Lynch
          Valued contributor
          wrote on last edited by Steve Lynch
          #4

          @KME

          Hi KME,

          I am an out and out fan boy of MRA as far as plotting Road Routes is concerned and there is nothing out there that comes anywhere close to its capabilities for normal road routes.
          However as you have probably worked out for yourself some of the TET Routes run for hundreds of miles Off Road and On Road, to plot those in MRA Route Planner using the “Skip” option is just not a viable option in my opinion!

          My advice would be to take a look at OSMAND (OpenStreetMap Automatic Navigation Directions)
          Whilst you will see that there is a free version available, you will soon realise that the way the maps are provided it is inevitable that you will have to pay eventually.
          You can pay a one off fee of £7.99 UK Sterling for all the maps for Europe or a £12.99 UK Sterling one off fee for the whole world.

          There is a bit of a learning curve involved in getting to grips with OSMAND but it is worth it in my view.

          Here is Segment 5 of Spain in Purple with full voice navigation (I never use this personally and it can be turned off).
          I had to make this a low res image as the max file size is 2mb

          FCC37E71-E0A3-4DC5-9F83-9918282818B5.jpeg

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          • Steve Lynch Steve Lynch

            @KME

            Hi KME,

            I am an out and out fan boy of MRA as far as plotting Road Routes is concerned and there is nothing out there that comes anywhere close to its capabilities for normal road routes.
            However as you have probably worked out for yourself some of the TET Routes run for hundreds of miles Off Road and On Road, to plot those in MRA Route Planner using the “Skip” option is just not a viable option in my opinion!

            My advice would be to take a look at OSMAND (OpenStreetMap Automatic Navigation Directions)
            Whilst you will see that there is a free version available, you will soon realise that the way the maps are provided it is inevitable that you will have to pay eventually.
            You can pay a one off fee of £7.99 UK Sterling for all the maps for Europe or a £12.99 UK Sterling one off fee for the whole world.

            There is a bit of a learning curve involved in getting to grips with OSMAND but it is worth it in my view.

            Here is Segment 5 of Spain in Purple with full voice navigation (I never use this personally and it can be turned off).
            I had to make this a low res image as the max file size is 2mb

            FCC37E71-E0A3-4DC5-9F83-9918282818B5.jpeg

            Con Hennekens Offline
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            #5

            @steve-lynch said in How to?: Modify a "Route-Track":

            I am an out and out fan boy of MRA as far as plotting Road Routes is concerned and there is nothing out there that comes anywhere close to its capabilities for normal road routes.
            However as you have probably worked out for yourself some of the TET Routes run for hundreds of miles Off Road and On Road, to plot those in MRA Route Planner using the “Skip” option is just not a viable option in my opinion!

            Yes, Off-road navigation requires an entirely different toolset.

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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            • KME KME

              @hans-van-de-ven-mra-master
              Hi Hans,
              Thanks for your reply, however the method doesn't work (or I'm doing something wrong).

              This is one of the original Tracks (TET Spain Section 005) that I want to modify (and later combine with ohter Tracks section) in MRA:
              908f79df-cae2-406e-bd6b-fcf8fd0b460a-image.png

              When choosing <+ Edit route track> and <Routing options --> Offroad> MRA makes this:
              97ea225f-c2da-4749-9e65-d8ffadc871f8-image.png

              Now lets say I save this Route as a Track again and upload that to my Garmin (which I just use to plot a line of the Track on the map, so no route calculations / guidance or anything)... than the plotted Track is way too coarse. Meaning you'll end up searching / gambling on every junction and potentially missing the scenic route.

              Below an example:

              Actual Track before editing in MRA:
              f0d6007d-ed5a-4a13-b092-4ab95e2abe73-image.png

              Track after editing in MRA:
              b553ec78-4b38-437f-a66a-e411c5c676aa-image.png

              Any idea how this could be solved?

              Hans van de Ven MR.MRA Offline
              Hans van de Ven MR.MRA Offline
              Hans van de Ven MR.MRA
              Valued contributor
              wrote on last edited by
              #6

              @kme

              Hi @KME This is possible in MRA, as @Con-Hennekens says " Off-road navigation requires an entirely different toolset."

              Garmin Zumo XT3/XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/Tourstart/ MyRouteapp (The App)/...
              Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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              • KME Offline
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                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                Thank for your feedback. Will find other ways 🙂

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