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  • Greenhamundefined Offline
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    Greenham
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    I'm confused.

    If shaping points are basically "suggestions" and Via points are "Required" for a route why wouldn't you just make all points Via points. If I make the route using the "HERE" map and import it to a Garmin wouldn't this guarantee the route on MRA would indeed be the same on my Zumo?

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    • Greenhamundefined Greenham

      I'm confused.

      If shaping points are basically "suggestions" and Via points are "Required" for a route why wouldn't you just make all points Via points. If I make the route using the "HERE" map and import it to a Garmin wouldn't this guarantee the route on MRA would indeed be the same on my Zumo?

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      @Greenham
      When you plan a route from A to Be, it is calculated according to certain parameters and algorithms. One would like to have stops on a route for a coffee break or for a sightseeing. These points are via points and must be visited. If this is not possible for certain reasons, you have to use the skip function. This then results in the route being recalculated.
      Shaping points on the other hand are used to force the route over certain roads. These points do not have to be passed, but you can drive past them without problems and recalculation, for example, if you are due road work etc.

      Kindly regards
      Reinhard

      ZumoXT, Zumo 590, Montana 700i and Mac

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      • Reinhard-32undefined Reinhard-32

        @Greenham
        When you plan a route from A to Be, it is calculated according to certain parameters and algorithms. One would like to have stops on a route for a coffee break or for a sightseeing. These points are via points and must be visited. If this is not possible for certain reasons, you have to use the skip function. This then results in the route being recalculated.
        Shaping points on the other hand are used to force the route over certain roads. These points do not have to be passed, but you can drive past them without problems and recalculation, for example, if you are due road work etc.

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        Greenham
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        @Reinhard-32
        Forgive me because I am still confused.

        When I ride my motorcycle I make a route on MRA. I want the Garmin to take me EXACTLY on the route I made in MRA. I figured a VIA point would make sure my Garmin takes me on that route.

        Is that correct?

        If I use shaping points to make a route for the motorcycle trip and miss one of the shaping points then Garmin will "recalculate" the route to something different than what I planned using MRA.

        Is that correct?

        If those two are correct I don't know the value of the shaping point IF you know what route you REALLY WANT TO TAKE

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        • Greenhamundefined Greenham

          @Reinhard-32
          Forgive me because I am still confused.

          When I ride my motorcycle I make a route on MRA. I want the Garmin to take me EXACTLY on the route I made in MRA. I figured a VIA point would make sure my Garmin takes me on that route.

          Is that correct?

          If I use shaping points to make a route for the motorcycle trip and miss one of the shaping points then Garmin will "recalculate" the route to something different than what I planned using MRA.

          Is that correct?

          If those two are correct I don't know the value of the shaping point IF you know what route you REALLY WANT TO TAKE

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          RouteXpert
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          @Greenham

          What kind of Zumo do you have / use? Via-point are only working on an Zumo XT right now.

          Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
          Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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          • Greenhamundefined Greenham

            @Reinhard-32
            Forgive me because I am still confused.

            When I ride my motorcycle I make a route on MRA. I want the Garmin to take me EXACTLY on the route I made in MRA. I figured a VIA point would make sure my Garmin takes me on that route.

            Is that correct?

            If I use shaping points to make a route for the motorcycle trip and miss one of the shaping points then Garmin will "recalculate" the route to something different than what I planned using MRA.

            Is that correct?

            If those two are correct I don't know the value of the shaping point IF you know what route you REALLY WANT TO TAKE

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            Reinhard-32
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            @Greenham That is depending your Zumo. Please tell us first your exact Zumo model. The behavior of route handling is different between the Zumos

            Kindly regards
            Reinhard

            ZumoXT, Zumo 590, Montana 700i and Mac

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            • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

              @Greenham

              What kind of Zumo do you have / use? Via-point are only working on an Zumo XT right now.

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              @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master I have the Zumo 396. So if I read you guys right. Via points and Shaping points are in basically the same thing. Hope for the best

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              • Greenhamundefined Greenham

                @Hans-van-de-Ven-MRA-Master I have the Zumo 396. So if I read you guys right. Via points and Shaping points are in basically the same thing. Hope for the best

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                RouteXpert
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                @Greenham
                No Via points, you really want to visit them, so you have to skip them manually. Shaping points form your route, I want to drive on those roads.

                Garmin Zumo XT2/XT/BMW Connected Ride Navigator/MyRouteapp (The App)
                Een dag niet gelachen is een dag niet geleefd / Een route is net zo goed als deze uitgezet is.

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                • Reinhard-32undefined Reinhard-32

                  @Greenham That is depending your Zumo. Please tell us first your exact Zumo model. The behavior of route handling is different between the Zumos

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                  @Reinhard-32 So if I use the 1.1 on a Zumo 595 I just have to use shaping points to make a route. I can stop where ever I want without skipping anything on my unit?

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                  • Karsten Lund 0undefined Karsten Lund 0

                    @Reinhard-32 So if I use the 1.1 on a Zumo 595 I just have to use shaping points to make a route. I can stop where ever I want without skipping anything on my unit?

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                    @Karsten-Lund-0 yes.🏍️

                    Kindly regards
                    Reinhard

                    ZumoXT, Zumo 590, Montana 700i and Mac

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