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Different handling of "Segments"

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  • Corrado Miniati 0
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    wrote last edited by Corrado Miniati 0
    #1

    Hello,
    I wanted to share some thoughts regarding the "avoid tolls" option found in the "segments" section.
    Take the example below: I selected "avoid tolls" for the segment between point 2 and point 3. However, because point 2 was too close to the entrance of the A4 toll highway, the route still included a stretch of that motorway—creating a risk (or even a certainty) of incurring a fine.
    It would be an excellent feature if the route planner could automatically detect that it is impossible to completely avoid tolls between points 2 and 3, and then either suggest an adjustment or proactively shift point 2 to a location that ensures toll roads are avoided.
    This logic could also be applied to other "segment" options, such as "unpaved roads," "highways," etc.

    What do you think?

    Toll.jpg
    No Toll.jpg

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    • Hubert Thoring
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      #2

      Yes, that makes a lot of sense, as such points are easily overlooked when adopting a route from another user's archive.

      I find this suggestion helpful!

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      • Lluis Arasanz
        Lluis Arasanz
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        Hi,

        If all route is marked as "no toll", there is no indication on info box when planning?

        Something like:

        imagen.jpeg

        Point 2 is in a way ot toll road, so I get an information about it. If I move poit 2 outside, it works fine:

        imagen.jpeg

        So all is question about waypoint colocation....

        Regards,

        Lluis Arasanz

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        • Lluis Arasanz Lluis Arasanz

          Hi,

          If all route is marked as "no toll", there is no indication on info box when planning?

          Something like:

          imagen.jpeg

          Point 2 is in a way ot toll road, so I get an information about it. If I move poit 2 outside, it works fine:

          imagen.jpeg

          So all is question about waypoint colocation....

          Regards,

          Corrado Miniati 0
          Corrado Miniati 0
          Corrado Miniati 0
          wrote last edited by Corrado Miniati 0
          #4

          @Lluis-Arasanz
          Hi,
          I’ve attached the status of the segment in the planner; no warning appears in the info box.

          image.jpeg
          image.jpeg

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          • Lluis Arasanz
            Lluis Arasanz
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            #5

            hi,

            Perhaps in route engine is not marked as "toll road"? If you deletes or move waypoint 2, route engine uses this toll segment again?

            Lluis Arasanz

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            • Lluis Arasanz Lluis Arasanz

              hi,

              Perhaps in route engine is not marked as "toll road"? If you deletes or move waypoint 2, route engine uses this toll segment again?

              Corrado Miniati 0
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              Corrado Miniati 0
              wrote last edited by
              #6

              @Lluis-Arasanz
              Hi,
              the segment highlighted in red is a toll segment.
              If I manually move waypoint 2 further back, the planner correctly avoids that section, which is logical and exactly what I expected.
              My initial request was to ask Corjan to consider whether the planner could handle this automatically, for two main reasons:

              1- If I select "Avoid Tolls" for a segment I would expect not to encounter any tolls.
              2- If the planner’s routing engine doesn't assist me, I might not notice it during the planning phase, only to face the consequences out on the road.

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              • Lluis Arasanz
                Lluis Arasanz
                Lluis Arasanz
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                #7

                I know, but in my case, if I put a waypoint where the route forces a toll road and I do not want toll roads, an advice is shown.
                I do not know why this is not in your case, but new planner has advices for that.

                If I commented about route engine, if because they are not perfect. Here has a little street near my home that thinks is forbidden to use, but in reality I can drive it.

                Nothing is perfect...

                Lluis Arasanz

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                  wrote last edited by
                  #8

                  Of course, nothing is perfect 😊 but if the Team manages to implement this feature that would be great.
                  We’ll see what they have to say.

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