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  • silberfuchs67undefined silberfuchs67

    @Guzzist which controller do you use with MRA and DMD2?

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    @silberfuchs67 said in DMD-T665 as a Motorcycle Navigation Device – Long-Term Review:

    @Guzzist which controller do you use with MRA and DMD2?

    I'm using Remote-2 controller, because:

    • it's small enough to place device between left handlebar and bikes switch element. So I'm able to operate by my thumb both, the remote controller and the switches like turn indicator comfortably.
    • I'm riding often offroad rallyes and navigate by "Rallye Road Book". The DMD device is able to operate that PDF files, and populated it on the screen. By the remote controller the descriptions in this files can be moved line by line over the screen. On such bumpy roads, it's difficult to hit the needed button on the controller correctly. The metallic 2-way switch for this at the Remote-2 controller, supports this in best way. Other controllers with knobs or 4-way mini joysticks are not suitable.
    • The Remote-2 controller can be connected be cable (pug&play) to the pre-configured cable harness with the DMD devices. Which makes it very easy and reliable. It can also be connected by Bluetooth; but I fear more issues with Bluetooth, because I have also connected my Headset to the DMD devices as well as my mobile phone. I was happy to could establish a reliable connection to Headset and mobile phone after long try and error phase. I don't need more risks.

    But the perfect situation is currently only for the DMD devices and running the DMD2 app! The MyRoute-App is still not supported by DMD Remote controller (and vice versa). Means: the 2-way switch - responsible for zoom in- and out in map, is not working in MyRoute-App. There you need to use the 4-way mini joystick for zooming - which is not secure enough during offroad riding.
    I'm in hope, this will be fixed by MyRoute-App developers soon. But overall the use of MyRoute-App on DMD devices is possible and works great.👍

    Nothing is impossible ;-)
    In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
    In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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      Thanks for your support and detailed feedback!

      If you think everything is under control you are driving to slow!

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      • AWDC LAOundefined AWDC LAO

        Ik kan geen kwaad woord zeggen over de Carpe Iter 4C, ze gaan allemaal wat dezelfde richting uit. 1nderzijdfs mijn iPhone 12 Pro Max doet het ook uitstekend !
        En dus de moeite waard om zo'n goed las nieuw herstelde iPhone aan te schaffen.

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        @AWDC-LAO said in DMD-T665 as a Motorcycle Navigation Device – Long-Term Review:

        iPhone 12 Pro Max is also working perfectly!

        No issues in direct sunlight ?
        Doesn't the brightness go down ?
        Thanks !

        Best regards,
        Adrian

        Samsung S24 Ultra and Motorola Thinkphone with Android Auto
        MyRoute-APP (Planner+Navigation, GOLD Lifetime)
        Honda NC750X (2021) with CHIGEE Aio-5 Play

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        • Hans van de Ven MR.MRAundefined Hans van de Ven MR.MRA

          @AWDC-LAO

          Heb je deze al gezien?
          https://bluerider.nl/products/carpe-iter-caretta-7-inch-android-navigatiesysteem-met-lin

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          @Hans-van-de-Ven-MR.MRA
          Lijkt mij zeker de moeite waard, maar dan geraak ik mijn Carpe Iter V4c niet meer aan de straatstenen kwijt.

          R1300GS Adv BlackPanther BMW, Apple MacPro 7.1, Carpe Iter V4c, ervaring met TTR550, ZumoXT2, Navigator VI, iPhone 12 MAX

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          • Adrian Avramundefined Adrian Avram

            @AWDC-LAO said in DMD-T665 as a Motorcycle Navigation Device – Long-Term Review:

            iPhone 12 Pro Max is also working perfectly!

            No issues in direct sunlight ?
            Doesn't the brightness go down ?
            Thanks !

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            @Adrian-Avram No issues at all with mijn iPhone 12 mini of even with my iPhone Pro 12 Max.

            R1300GS Adv BlackPanther BMW, Apple MacPro 7.1, Carpe Iter V4c, ervaring met TTR550, ZumoXT2, Navigator VI, iPhone 12 MAX

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            • ConiKostundefined Online
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              #16

              I also started using a T665 with MRA. Does the Silverfox C1 works in both modes, wire-cable and bluetooth, with MRA?

              Shiny!

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              • ConiKostundefined ConiKost

                I also started using a T665 with MRA. Does the Silverfox C1 works in both modes, wire-cable and bluetooth, with MRA?

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                @ConiKost
                I have the Silverfox C1 >>> according my information, the C1 only works with Bluetooth.

                Check this post.... It was already an issue for other users.

                https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/8990/silverfox-controller-c-1?page=4

                BMW R 1250 GS
                MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                Pixel 9 "online"
                SPC Universal mount
                Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                Sena SLR 3
                Sena 50 R

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                • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                  @ConiKost
                  I have the Silverfox C1 >>> according my information, the C1 only works with Bluetooth.

                  Check this post.... It was already an issue for other users.

                  https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/8990/silverfox-controller-c-1?page=4

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                  @Peter-Zehentreiter according to SilverFox it's best to use it with Bluetooth

                  Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                  Honda Silverwing GL 650
                  DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                  Garmin XT sold
                  Samsung S24FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                  • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                    @Peter-Zehentreiter according to SilverFox it's best to use it with Bluetooth

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                    @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in DMD-T665 as a Motorcycle Navigation Device – Long-Term Review:

                    according to SilverFox it's best to use it with Bluetooth

                    I know...I just answered @ConiKost

                    BMW R 1250 GS
                    MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                    BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                    Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                    Pixel 9 "online"
                    SPC Universal mount
                    Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                    Sena SLR 3
                    Sena 50 R

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                    • ConiKostundefined Online
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                      Thank you. Does this also apply to other controller variants (also non Silverfox). Based on https://unterstutzung.myrouteapp.com/de/support/solutions/articles/12000103174-bluetooth-controllers I would think, that every controller needs to be bluetooth, right?

                      Shiny!

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                      • ConiKostundefined ConiKost

                        Thank you. Does this also apply to other controller variants (also non Silverfox). Based on https://unterstutzung.myrouteapp.com/de/support/solutions/articles/12000103174-bluetooth-controllers I would think, that every controller needs to be bluetooth, right?

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                        @ConiKost I’m afraid I can’t say for certain about the other controllers available on the market.

                        However, every Silverfox model is Bluetooth-compatible.

                        If you’d prefer a different product, I’d recommend visiting the manufacturer’s website directly.

                        As for Silverfox, I can only say that the quality is excellent and it works really well with MRA too.

                        BMW R 1250 GS
                        MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                        BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                        Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                        Pixel 9 "online"
                        SPC Universal mount
                        Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                        Sena SLR 3
                        Sena 50 R

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                        • ConiKostundefined Online
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                          Just asking, as I have not yet decided what to do. I am not against bluetooth, just wanted to know, if it's a must or not, when choosing a controller for me. Silverfox is nice. But my problem is more difficult, as I don't have any place to mount it on handlebar and currently thinking about other mounting methods. Silverfox C1 may be an option, but I have to see.

                          Am I right, that for example Silverfox can be powered by T665 cable splitter, but connected via bluetooth, right? Does the splitter cable output 12V or 5V? Since its behind the converter box, I would expect 5V, but somehow Google tells me 12V?

                          Shiny!

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                          • ConiKostundefined ConiKost

                            Just asking, as I have not yet decided what to do. I am not against bluetooth, just wanted to know, if it's a must or not, when choosing a controller for me. Silverfox is nice. But my problem is more difficult, as I don't have any place to mount it on handlebar and currently thinking about other mounting methods. Silverfox C1 may be an option, but I have to see.

                            Am I right, that for example Silverfox can be powered by T665 cable splitter, but connected via bluetooth, right? Does the splitter cable output 12V or 5V? Since its behind the converter box, I would expect 5V, but somehow Google tells me 12V?

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                            @ConiKost said in DMD-T665 as a Motorcycle Navigation Device – Long-Term Review:

                            But my problem is more difficult, as I don't have any place to mount it on handlebar

                            I don’t know what sort of motorbike you ride.
                            On my GS, I had to move the left-hand mirror inwards just a little... but it fits quite well and I don’t need a special homemade mount.

                            Concerning your question about connecting the T665 , I'm using the Silverfox in connection with a regular Smartphone, so I cannot answer this question.

                            BMW R 1250 GS
                            MRA Navigation & SilverFox C1 Controller
                            BMW Connected Ride Cradle
                            Wunderlich USB Ladebox mit Quadlock
                            Pixel 9 "online"
                            SPC Universal mount
                            Motorola Edge 40 "offline"
                            Sena SLR 3
                            Sena 50 R

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                              ...ned to add/update my last post: now the DMD Remote-2 controller is supported by MyRoute-App. So I'm totally happy 😳 😀 😎

                              Nothing is impossible ;-)
                              In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                              In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                              • Bart De Medtsundefined Bart De Medts

                                Hey everyone,
                                I recently wrote an in-depth review for MyRoute-app after ±10,000 km of intensive use of the DMD-T665 in combination with MyRoute-app Navigation Next, and I wanted to briefly share my experiences here and invite you to read the full blog post.

                                🔗 Review (with photos & details): https://info.myrouteapp.com/dmd-t665-review-na-intensief-gebruik/

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                                @Bart-De-Medts

                                Hi This is my first 'Post' on MRA (I'm not very good at this Social Media stuff, so apologies in advance)
                                Although I am a long term MRA and earlier 'TYRE' user

                                The reason for this message is in 2 parts (What I have now and What I would like some help with)

                                1. I have a fairly New Garmin TREAD which I bought for On & Off road use, BUT I can't get on with it at all, far too complicated and keeps trying to send me off my planned routes, Nightmare.

                                2. I'm thinking of buying a DMD Device probably the smaller version T665? as the Bike is a 250cc Dirt Bike

                                3. I've been using OutDoorActive very successfully on a Smartphone for 2 or 3 Years, but a Waterproof Bike Specific solution is very interesting.

                                4. I understand the DMD is an Android Device so can take different applications so to the final question.
                                  What OFF ROAD mapping does one use on the DMD device, is there an Off Road map that comes with the device or is there a preferred mapping that people generally choose.
                                  And what mapping for On Road (I will use MRA if that is possible, it seems to be from the review)

                                If anyone has the time to reply I would really appreciate the information.

                                Thanks in advance

                                Rob H

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                                • Rob Hollidayundefined Rob Holliday

                                  @Bart-De-Medts

                                  Hi This is my first 'Post' on MRA (I'm not very good at this Social Media stuff, so apologies in advance)
                                  Although I am a long term MRA and earlier 'TYRE' user

                                  The reason for this message is in 2 parts (What I have now and What I would like some help with)

                                  1. I have a fairly New Garmin TREAD which I bought for On & Off road use, BUT I can't get on with it at all, far too complicated and keeps trying to send me off my planned routes, Nightmare.

                                  2. I'm thinking of buying a DMD Device probably the smaller version T665? as the Bike is a 250cc Dirt Bike

                                  3. I've been using OutDoorActive very successfully on a Smartphone for 2 or 3 Years, but a Waterproof Bike Specific solution is very interesting.

                                  4. I understand the DMD is an Android Device so can take different applications so to the final question.
                                    What OFF ROAD mapping does one use on the DMD device, is there an Off Road map that comes with the device or is there a preferred mapping that people generally choose.
                                    And what mapping for On Road (I will use MRA if that is possible, it seems to be from the review)

                                  If anyone has the time to reply I would really appreciate the information.

                                  Thanks in advance

                                  Rob H

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                                  @Rob-Holliday ...I will send you a private message, because I don't like to "hijack this thread

                                  Nothing is impossible ;-)
                                  In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                                  In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                                  • Rob Hollidayundefined Rob Holliday

                                    @Bart-De-Medts

                                    Hi This is my first 'Post' on MRA (I'm not very good at this Social Media stuff, so apologies in advance)
                                    Although I am a long term MRA and earlier 'TYRE' user

                                    The reason for this message is in 2 parts (What I have now and What I would like some help with)

                                    1. I have a fairly New Garmin TREAD which I bought for On & Off road use, BUT I can't get on with it at all, far too complicated and keeps trying to send me off my planned routes, Nightmare.

                                    2. I'm thinking of buying a DMD Device probably the smaller version T665? as the Bike is a 250cc Dirt Bike

                                    3. I've been using OutDoorActive very successfully on a Smartphone for 2 or 3 Years, but a Waterproof Bike Specific solution is very interesting.

                                    4. I understand the DMD is an Android Device so can take different applications so to the final question.
                                      What OFF ROAD mapping does one use on the DMD device, is there an Off Road map that comes with the device or is there a preferred mapping that people generally choose.
                                      And what mapping for On Road (I will use MRA if that is possible, it seems to be from the review)

                                    If anyone has the time to reply I would really appreciate the information.

                                    Thanks in advance

                                    Rob H

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                                    @Rob-Holliday Hi Rob,

                                    Welcome to MRA! Don’t worry about social media – we’re happy to help each other here. 😊

                                    The DMD T665 is indeed a good choice for a 250cc dirt bike: small, robust, and waterproof. Since it’s an Android device, you can use multiple apps for navigation.

                                    For offroad use, the DMD app already includes topographic offline maps that show trails and terrain, so you can start using it right away. You can also install additional Android navigation apps, like Locus Map or OsmAnd, if you want more maps or routing features.

                                    For onroad use, MRA is ideal: you can simply follow the routes you already create in MRA on the DMD device. It works the same as on a regular smartphone, but waterproof and bike-specific.

                                    In short, the T665 plus the DMD maps give you a solid offroad foundation right away, with the option to use extra apps for even more flexibility.

                                    🏍️ Tiger: DMD-T665 + SilverFox controller
                                    🏍️ Bobber: iPhone 15 Pro + Quad Lock mount
                                    🚗 Car: iPhone 15 Pro with wireless Apple CarPlay

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                                    • Bart De Medtsundefined Bart De Medts

                                      @Rob-Holliday Hi Rob,

                                      Welcome to MRA! Don’t worry about social media – we’re happy to help each other here. 😊

                                      The DMD T665 is indeed a good choice for a 250cc dirt bike: small, robust, and waterproof. Since it’s an Android device, you can use multiple apps for navigation.

                                      For offroad use, the DMD app already includes topographic offline maps that show trails and terrain, so you can start using it right away. You can also install additional Android navigation apps, like Locus Map or OsmAnd, if you want more maps or routing features.

                                      For onroad use, MRA is ideal: you can simply follow the routes you already create in MRA on the DMD device. It works the same as on a regular smartphone, but waterproof and bike-specific.

                                      In short, the T665 plus the DMD maps give you a solid offroad foundation right away, with the option to use extra apps for even more flexibility.

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                                      @Bart-De-Medts

                                      Hi Bart, Thanks for your reply and the additional DMD Info, much appreciated.

                                      I also had a lot of information from Rainer (Guzziest) in a PM, I now have confidence the DMD solution is for me the flexibility is the key element I think.

                                      Thanks again for the support, I know where to come now to find ‘expert advice’

                                      Cheers
                                      Rob H

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                                      • Peter Zehentreiterundefined Peter Zehentreiter

                                        @ConiKost said in DMD-T665 as a Motorcycle Navigation Device – Long-Term Review:

                                        But my problem is more difficult, as I don't have any place to mount it on handlebar

                                        I don’t know what sort of motorbike you ride.
                                        On my GS, I had to move the left-hand mirror inwards just a little... but it fits quite well and I don’t need a special homemade mount.

                                        Concerning your question about connecting the T665 , I'm using the Silverfox in connection with a regular Smartphone, so I cannot answer this question.

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                                        @Peter-Zehentreiter said in DMD-T665 as a Motorcycle Navigation Device – Long-Term Review:

                                        @ConiKost said in DMD-T665 as a Motorcycle Navigation Device – Long-Term Review:

                                        But my problem is more difficult, as I don't have any place to mount it on handlebar

                                        I don’t know what sort of motorbike you ride.
                                        On my GS, I had to move the left-hand mirror inwards just a little... but it fits quite well and I don’t need a special homemade mount.

                                        Concerning your question about connecting the T665 , I'm using the Silverfox in connection with a regular Smartphone, so I cannot answer this question.

                                        No problem. I've now found a different solution for me. Ordered a Remotek One instead for me and with a specific RAM mount, I found a good place for me.

                                        Shiny!

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