How to incorporate public gravel roads when planning a route
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Hi everyone new to the group here looking forward to planning some good routes this year I’ve just splashed out for gold membership.. as planing a trip with the boys in Spain .. great planning app in fairness which is why I decided to sign up for gold membership.. only thing we were hoping to do some official public light gravel roads ( not tet routes ) around where we’re staying we all use tomtom riders so I use the tomtom map in route lab to map routes as advised but should I use a different map? when I plan a route on route lab it only seems to plan all tarmac roads I’ve tried checking all the boxes in the toolkit all to no avail… anyone know how to fix this
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@derek-c
Do you have unmarked this option?
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Explicit preference of gravel roads is not supported.
Best would be to plan in OSM as they have more gravel roads mapped and then convert the route to TomTom. -
Thanks for the speedy reply much appreciated i’m new to all this route planning what is this OSM is it another app related to my route app if not, can I download it to the MyRoute-app to view it and change it if necessary? app?@Corjan-Meijerink
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@derek-c Oh sorry, just select OpenStreetMap where it says "TomTom" in the screenshot above. This will allow you to use that map which quite often includes more offroad roads.
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@derek-c You are aware that if a road that you planned using another map (e.g. OSM) than that of TomTom, the software of the TomTom Rider will automatically choose to take another road on its map when a gpx is imported in a TomTom Rider?
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@derek-c Just for your information and from my experience as an ex TT user, of all the GPS devices available, the TomTom Rider is least likely to use gravel roads. That's not to say that it won't, if you can plan your route on the TT planning map there's a good chance that your Rider will guide you.
As Corjan has already stated, the OSM map shows gravel roads better. If I was you I would plan on the TomTom planning map and use the OSM overlay map.
Think of the overlay maps as clear sheets with extra information that you lay over the planning map, the planning map underneath does all the calculations.
In my example below, I am using the TomTom planning map and I have the OpenStreetMap (OSM) open.
Route points 2, 3, 4 and 5 are all off road. You can see that the TomTom planning map has drawn a line for 2, 4 and 5 but not for 3. So in this situation, you could either make a mental note about route point 3 or just delete it.
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@Rob-Veerman yes was thinking that might be the case so how do I fix this? I originally bought the gold membership thinking that the off-road map section would cater for dirt roads
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@Nick-Carthew didn't tried it, but perhaps setting the activity profile to pedestrian may help?
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@Guzt The TomTom Rider does not recognise walking routes.
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@derek-c said in How to incorporate public gravel roads when planning a route:
@Rob-Veerman yes was thinking that might be the case so how do I fix this? I originally bought the gold membership thinking that the off-road map section would cater for dirt roads
The limiting factor here is the TomTom Rider, they are just not designed for off road navigation.
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@derek-c There's no real fix for this. The TomTom Rider is an excellent device and far more user friendly than the Garmin devices, but the problem is - like I wrote - that it will not take a road that is not in its map, it will recalculate the route and will look for roads on its maps. Normally not a big problem if it's just a matter of taking another street or a nearby side road. But it's a more serious problem if you want to go riding off road. The TomTom Rider will always recalculate another route that it will find on the map that is built in. The software is just designed that way. It's not a device to be used for long distance off roading. What I have done in the past (when I used the TomTom Rider) was the following: I stopped the route, started it again, did not press on the button 'Ride', followed the cursor while riding to a road that is part of the designed route and then press on 'Ride' the moment I had reached the original route. That looks a bit like the Garmin where you can switch off the recalculating (but you can't switch that off in the Rider). But that's not a real option for serious off roading. The limitations are in the software of the TomTom Rider (and at this moment you can't use another map in the Rider than the one that's built in). Being a long distance rider taking all kinds of roads that are not always on the TomTom built in maps I switched to Garmin. For creating routes you can off course use the TomTom map in MRA web planner. Part of the problem is that you are riding with others that still might use a TomTom. They will have to follow the leader.
