Improve fuel stop functionality

Michael Rhys

I find the fuel stop functionality to be useless on long trips. Can you please improve it it won’t take much!

As a rider this is my requirement for fuel stops. I need to see the next fuel stop on my route, 90pct of the time I am not interested in fuel stops off route. When I approach a fuel stop I check my tank range and see whether I need to stop. I need the fuel stop information to be accurate.

Why does the current functionality not work? It has a countdown to the next stop but often that is off route I have no way of knowing. Most fuel stops are in towns or villages, when I come to a town or village the fuel stop icon is replaced by the next instruction. (After the current one) so when I am approaching the station the countdown is gone (yes there May be an icon on the map) yes you can click the icon and say add as a waypoint but that does not work when you are riding with gloves.

In my current trip I have been short of ffuel clicked the icon selected add as waypoint, been directed to the fuel stop only to find it hasn’t been a fuel stop for years, and there is no way to click the icon again to find another. This is where Google maps becomes your saviour. I have also been in the route showing the next station 40km away yet pass 3 large fuel stops on route that MRA does not know about!

What I would like to see.

Accurate fuel stop information be nice if it only showed open ones.
Only show stops on the route.
Always show the countdown even in towns
Ideally show the next 2 stations
If I can’t wait to the next fuel station let me stop and press the icon and it gives me a list of stations nearby with distances so I can choose one
The fuel station symbol on the map is less important that the countdown. Make the icon smaller and the numbers bigger or make the black box a fuel station sign a then just show numbers in side map be some thing like 7/30 to show the next 2 stations?

Peter Schiefer

@Michael-Rhys

I rearly understand your problem with the current version. I am just only a estate driver not with a bike with about 15 l. of fuel. But this black symbol for fuel stations is a bit useless.
I am on a highway, routing is on and I see all the fuelstations upcomming in sequence and nearest distance but the next Highway exit is in 25 and more Kilometers, in France sometimes longer and with the disadvantage that you have to leave the highway over the toll station with payment and enter again with a new ticket.
Alao I saw on our trip to France in Belgium where I want to refuel the symbol with the distance, but comming closer not where is the station on the map right or left.

So I travel now nearly 50 years with cars and for few years with a bike, BMW850 30years ago, before Navigation was available.

Sometimes I ask myself, how have we organized or trips at those years and survied?

I knew my range with my fuel capcity and the day trip counter tells me when I have the last 50 kilometer possible and then the next fuel station on my way is mine. What is here the problem.
Questionable is only the point, is a bike with only 150 km of fuel range a bike for travelling in areas where the availability of fuel stations by distances of villages with countable population is bigger. The fuel stations must earn money and all the small stations where closed nearly everywhere.
The discussion is close to this for small electric cars.

A Tipp for those, who has no day trip counter on the bike. A small GPS Speedometer for bikes (with pedals) need no sensor for the wheel but count your distance in the same way and has an additional info for the true speed. The only important task. The speed counter need 3 digits to show speed over 100. Available for about 50-80 €.

Corjan Meijerink

Thanks for your feedback!
I believe we are indeed able to improve this a bit more

We are currently working on more core stability stuff, I'll add this for the period after that.

white.mouse.on.the.motorbikegmail.com

@Corjan-Meijerink I think this is not only a problem of MRA but more a problem of the Here map. I used to ride a lot with the BMW Navigator V and a Garmin, both also with the Here map. Now I still have the Garmin Zumo XT on but use MRA for navigation. Even then (but still now) it occurred/occurs with regularity that gas stations were passed along the way that were not on the map and vice versa, stations that were on the map turned out not to exist anymore. So I think the underlying problem lies with Here and not with MRA. _____________________________________________
Ik denk dat dit niet alleen een probleem van MRA is, maar meer een probleem van de Here kaart. Vroeger reed ik veel met de BMW Navigator V en een Garmin, beide ook met de Here kaart. Nu heb ik nog steeds de Garmin Zumo XT aan maar gebruik MRA voor navigatie. Ook toen (maar nu nog steeds) kwam/komt het regelmatig voor dat er onderweg tankstations voorbij kwamen die niet op de kaart stonden en andersom, stations die wel op de kaart stonden bleken niet meer te bestaan. Ik denk dus dat het onderliggende probleem bij Here ligt en niet bij MRA.

Michael Rhys

@white-mouse-on-the-motorbike Maybe they can use a different fuel POI database. One glaring omission was on the way back motorway services in France were shown as having restaurants but not fuel when indeed fuel was there.

Lynchy67

@Michael-Rhys

Why not add fuel stops at the planning stage of your route?
No more fuel anxiety.

Michael Rhys

@Lynchy67 Not all routes are planned to that level of detail. And again database has to be accurate to pick appropriate stations. Then what happens when the station you have picked is closed? Having come from tomtom where there fuel system is vastly superior and useful, just want the same on MRA.

Lynchy67

@Michael-Rhys

Personally I do not take the motorbike out for night rides.
In the UK most petrol stations are open between 7am and 9pm, 7 days a week.

Con Hennekens

@Lynchy67, In The Netherlands, most (almost all...) fuel stations offer an outside payment terminal for paying by card when closed. It is sometimes hard to believe that in some other countries you can't fill up when closed...

Jörgen

@Con-Hennekens come to Germany. These stations are very rare.

RetiredWingMan

@Michael-Rhys the Here POI database is terribly unreliable. I use other apps (such as Google maps) to select fuel stop in advance. If I'm in a pinch and need fuel, I'll use Gasbuddy to find a station here in Canada.

Con Hennekens

@Jörgen said in Improve fuel stop functionality:

come to Germany. These stations are very rare.

I happen to know that from experience...

I think that is due to the unfair (in my opinion) system of "your price depends on the time of day" system that is used for gas in Germany

Lynchy67

@Con-Hennekens

Indeed, my local Tesco Superstore has 24/7 Pay at the Pump facilities.

Michael Rhys

@Lynchy67 But that only works if the Tesco petrol station is included in the Fuel stations available. As has been said the here fuel database is wanting. MRA should consider a more up to date POI fuel database. Also it should only show fuel stations on the immediate route unless requested otherwise, by pressing the fuel icon.

Jörgen

@Con-Hennekens I hate this, I have to use an App to find the time slot where the price is best, so you watch the up and down a hole day and jump off to the station and before you grip the gas pistol it changes again.

Sorry off topic.