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route wordt door MRA tijdens rijden gewijzigd; routepunten worden overgeslagen

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  • white.mouseundefined white.mouse

    Gisteren een rit van 250 km gemaakt met de nieuwste Beta! Bewust een aantal keren van de route afgeweken maar dat ging allemaal gladjes. Geen problemen daarmee ondervonden. Ook de pauze verliep ditmaal zonder probleem.
    Wat ik wel bemerkte is dat de route op een aantal plaatsen spontaan gewijzigd werd (blauwe lijn liep anders dan de witte lijn) waarbij daardoor ook een aantal op de route liggende routepunten overgeslagen werden.
    Gewoon de witte lijn (de oorspronkelijke route dus) blijven volgen waarbij MRA toch nog een aantal malen opnieuw probeerde de route te wijzigen.
    Uiteindelijk bleken er geen zichtbare redenen (wegafsluitingen e.d.)om van de geplande route af te wijken.
    Geen idee dus waarom dit gedrag vertoond werd.

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    @white.mouse

    Please check the setting ...

    That's how it works very well ... Motorcycle driving mode

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    VG Hubert
    Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
    iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
    ❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️

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      Sorry to say. But if disable "Autoskip Waypoints" make the app works as it should. Then there is something wrong. This sounds Zumo all over again (recalculation off setting).

      Autoksip may only change the route after a waypoint is autoskipped. All waypoints to come needs to be untouched in the route.

      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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      • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

        Sorry to say. But if disable "Autoskip Waypoints" make the app works as it should. Then there is something wrong. This sounds Zumo all over again (recalculation off setting).

        Autoksip may only change the route after a waypoint is autoskipped. All waypoints to come needs to be untouched in the route.

        Marinus van Deudekomundefined Do not disturb
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        Marinus van Deudekom
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        @M.-Schrijver both you and @Hubert-Thoring are a bit mistaken
        Turning off auto skipping is not a good idea. Of you do you don't use the full possibilities of MRA.
        If a upcoming waypoint is gonna be shipped that is caused by something on the route. Therefore multiple waypoints could be skipped to solve the problem. Turning off the auto functions is like driving with a flat tire. You can drive but I wouldn't recommend it

        Honda Goldwing GL1500,
        Honda Silverwing GL 650
        DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
        Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
        Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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          The discussion in this topic is why upcoming waypoint(s) are skipped without a clear sign for it (visual or on the map).
          I've seen this happen more than once and made a ticket for it.

          (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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          • M. Schrijverundefined M. Schrijver

            Sorry to say. But if disable "Autoskip Waypoints" make the app works as it should. Then there is something wrong. This sounds Zumo all over again (recalculation off setting).

            Autoksip may only change the route after a waypoint is autoskipped. All waypoints to come needs to be untouched in the route.

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            @M.-Schrijver said in route wordt door MRA tijdens rijden gewijzigd; routepunten worden overgeslagen:

            This sounds Zumo all over again (recalculation off setting).

            That feature is indeed explicitly asked for by Zumo users (who are afraid of change I presume). MRA does not need it, since it does not skip right to the end.

            I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Streetpilot 2610 / Zumo 660 / Zumo 395 / CAT S52 + MRA app

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            • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

              @M.-Schrijver both you and @Hubert-Thoring are a bit mistaken
              Turning off auto skipping is not a good idea. Of you do you don't use the full possibilities of MRA.
              If a upcoming waypoint is gonna be shipped that is caused by something on the route. Therefore multiple waypoints could be skipped to solve the problem. Turning off the auto functions is like driving with a flat tire. You can drive but I wouldn't recommend it

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              @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in route wordt door MRA tijdens rijden gewijzigd; routepunten worden overgeslagen:

              @M.-Schrijver both you and @Hubert-Thoring are a bit mistaken
              Turning off auto skipping is not a good idea. Of you do you don't use the full possibilities of MRA.
              If a upcoming waypoint is gonna be shipped that is caused by something on the route. Therefore multiple waypoints could be skipped to solve the problem. Turning off the auto functions is like driving with a flat tire. You can drive but I wouldn't recommend it

              very strange way to make your point. i have auto skip off and i do it by hand. i never feel that i ride with flat tire. if i make a route i want to take that route, sometime a road it closed but i still can pass and sometimes not. that is adventure for me and not flat tire.

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              • Bouke Entundefined Bouke Ent

                @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in route wordt door MRA tijdens rijden gewijzigd; routepunten worden overgeslagen:

                @M.-Schrijver both you and @Hubert-Thoring are a bit mistaken
                Turning off auto skipping is not a good idea. Of you do you don't use the full possibilities of MRA.
                If a upcoming waypoint is gonna be shipped that is caused by something on the route. Therefore multiple waypoints could be skipped to solve the problem. Turning off the auto functions is like driving with a flat tire. You can drive but I wouldn't recommend it

                very strange way to make your point. i have auto skip off and i do it by hand. i never feel that i ride with flat tire. if i make a route i want to take that route, sometime a road it closed but i still can pass and sometimes not. that is adventure for me and not flat tire.

                Marinus van Deudekomundefined Do not disturb
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                @Bouke-Ent have it your way. You don’t have to use MRA fully but you may

                Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                Honda Silverwing GL 650
                DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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                • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                  @white.mouse

                  Please check the setting ...

                  That's how it works very well ... Motorcycle driving mode

                  IMG_2578.png

                  IMG_2579.png

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                  @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                  I recommend setting the automatic recalculation to Off, this is the only way to keep the real control over a curved route, in addition I decide to skip the WP = waypoint by double-clicking on the BT keyboard.

                  Especially when a route like a circular tour has a lot of jicks and turns and mountains 🏔️ are in between.

                  But these are just my experiences, everyone has to try this for themselves.

                  VG 👋

                  VG Hubert
                  Info zum Beta Test "Next App" dazu die Hardware ...
                  iPad 9. Generation iOS 18.5 / Handy iPhone Xr iOS 18.5 / PC mit MS Win11 / BMW Connected App mit Cradel.
                  ❗️MyRoute-App im Cradel und Remotek-One❗️

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                    I want to have every setting on auto and expect the navi to stay on the original route a tight as possible. That the navi don't make any mistakes. The navi reroute me around closed routes without giving me a message.
                    That navi keeps looking forward when rerouting and not backwards. You have been there already. No need to get there anymore.

                    I just want be able to keep on riding without any stops or any pushing or scrolling on my screen. Just be able to follow the navi blind and enjoy the scenery and riding my bike. You need to be able to trust your navi 100%. The navi should care of you. Not the other way around.

                    These days that is what a navigation app needs the able to do. The only thing you need to be sure of, is riding in the right direction of the route. This is what no navigation app or device can fix for you.

                    (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                      I just want keep on riding without any stops or any pushing or scrolling on my screen. Just be able to follow the navi blind and enjoy the scenery and riding my bike. You need to able to trust your navi 100%. The navi should care of you. Not the other way around.

                      These days that is what a navigation app needs the able to do. The only thing you need to be sure of is, is riding in the right direction of the route. This is what no navigation app or device can fix for you.

                      (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                      • Hubert Thoringundefined Hubert Thoring

                        @Marinus-van-Deudekom

                        I recommend setting the automatic recalculation to Off, this is the only way to keep the real control over a curved route, in addition I decide to skip the WP = waypoint by double-clicking on the BT keyboard.

                        Especially when a route like a circular tour has a lot of jicks and turns and mountains 🏔️ are in between.

                        But these are just my experiences, everyone has to try this for themselves.

                        VG 👋

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                        @Hubert-Thoring said in route wordt door MRA tijdens rijden gewijzigd; routepunten worden overgeslagen:

                        Especially when a route like a circular tour has a lot of jicks and turns and mountains 🏔️ are in between.

                        Very tricky thing for a navi. But this can be solved in the software. The real GPS position is not that accurate as some believe to think. This is a problem on tight mountain roads with a lot switchbacks, etc. Especially when there also a lot of trees on the mountain.

                        From what i've seen. Some apps a really good at compensating this problem. Other apps less.

                        (I use MRA Next only on Android Auto. Every comment, suggestion, etc will be based on my usage with Android Auto)

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                        • Marinus van Deudekomundefined Marinus van Deudekom

                          @Bouke-Ent have it your way. You don’t have to use MRA fully but you may

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                          @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in route wordt door MRA tijdens rijden gewijzigd; routepunten worden overgeslagen:

                          @Bouke-Ent have it your way. You don’t have to use MRA fully but you may

                          sorry maar ik ga toch even in het nederlands. aub leg uit wat het niet volledig benutten van MRA Next te maken heeft met het gevoel van het rijden met een lekke band.

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                          • Bouke Entundefined Bouke Ent

                            @Marinus-van-Deudekom said in route wordt door MRA tijdens rijden gewijzigd; routepunten worden overgeslagen:

                            @Bouke-Ent have it your way. You don’t have to use MRA fully but you may

                            sorry maar ik ga toch even in het nederlands. aub leg uit wat het niet volledig benutten van MRA Next te maken heeft met het gevoel van het rijden met een lekke band.

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                            @Bouke-Ent het is een metafoor

                            Honda Goldwing GL1500,
                            Honda Silverwing GL 650
                            DMD2 T865X 8 inch Android tablet using MRA next for navigation
                            Garmin XT (almost in the cupboard)
                            Samsung S20FE mounted on a Quadlock and using Android Auto in my car

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