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  • Mopetenpit
    Mopetenpit last edited by 26 Mar 2023, 19:25

    I drove a short round today (about 100 km). The navigation worked well.
    Only the German announcement of the distances was faulty:
    Instead of
    "Folgen die dem Verlauf der Straße für 3 Kilometer".
    was
    "Folgen die dem Verlauf der Straße für homographstart 3 homographend Kilometer"
    announced.
    I did not understand the word "homographxxx" exactly, maybe it is a little different. It seems that the language engine is supplied with literals that are not necessary.
    My two cents....

    Corjan Meijerink 1 Reply Last reply 26 Mar 2023, 19:34 Reply Quote 0
    • Corjan Meijerink
      Corjan Meijerink administrator @Mopetenpit last edited by Corjan Meijerink 26 Mar 2023, 19:34 26 Mar 2023, 19:34

      @Mopetenpit funny! @Jörgen mentioned this too here: https://forum.myrouteapp.com/topic/2993/strange-word-in-german-voice-command but also told us the issue had been solved.

      We however have no influence here and this seems something to do with either HERE or your phone.
      Maybe you can help each other / share some info in this thread 🙂

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      • Jörgen
        Jörgen Instructor last edited by 26 Mar 2023, 22:16

        Very interesting, I was not the only one "Gott sei dank".
        I have a iPhone X with iOS 16...
        It went away with the second last update.
        Which version of MRA Next are you using @Mopetenpit ?

        Hardware
        iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
        Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
        Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
        Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
        Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
        For more information, click here

        Mopetenpit 1 Reply Last reply 27 Mar 2023, 06:39 Reply Quote 0
        • Mopetenpit
          Mopetenpit @Jörgen last edited by 27 Mar 2023, 06:39

          @Jörgen Ich verwende die aktuellste Version von MRA.
          Ich werde nochmal einen Test machen: Für die Motorrad-Navigation nutze ich ein iPhone 7 plus, hier höre ich auch die o.g. Worte. Für das Testen (nicht auf dem Motorrad) der MRA-Software nutze ich ein iPhone 13 Pro. Ich werde mal mit beiden iPhones gleichzeitig fahren und hören...

          Ich informiere!

          Peter

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          • Con Hennekens
            Con Hennekens last edited by 27 Mar 2023, 11:55

            Since "homograph" is a linguistic term, I think it is really plausible to assume it's coming from or has to do with the speech synthesis engin.

            I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
            I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

            Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

            Mopetenpit 1 Reply Last reply 31 Mar 2023, 05:26 Reply Quote 0
            • Mopetenpit
              Mopetenpit last edited by 28 Mar 2023, 20:09

              Did a short test drive with my two iPhones today:

              • iPhone 13 pro with iOS 16.3.1 (="Business-iPhone")
              • iPhone 7 Plus with iOS 15.7.4 (="MRA-iPhone" for the motorbike).

              It's unbelievable, the iPhone 13 generates the correct announcement, the iPhone 7 generates the wrong (as described above) announcement.
              Has anyone else - apart from Jörgen - noticed such behaviour...?

              Corjan Meijerink 1 Reply Last reply 28 Mar 2023, 22:22 Reply Quote 0
              • Corjan Meijerink
                Corjan Meijerink administrator @Mopetenpit last edited by 28 Mar 2023, 22:22

                @Mopetenpit it might very well be an issue with the speech synthesis (OS based, as @Con-Hennekens also mentioned) and that it was solved in newer (current) iOS version 🙂

                Mopetenpit Con Hennekens 2 Replies Last reply 29 Mar 2023, 07:38 Reply Quote 0
                • Mopetenpit
                  Mopetenpit @Corjan Meijerink last edited by 29 Mar 2023, 04:19

                  @Corjan-Meijerink Yes, something like that will be the reason.

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                  • Con Hennekens
                    Con Hennekens @Corjan Meijerink last edited by 29 Mar 2023, 07:38

                    @Corjan-Meijerink, Is the speech synthesis left to OS? I had not thought of that. I assumed it was embedded in the app itself.

                    I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
                    I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

                    Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                    • Mopetenpit
                      Mopetenpit @Con Hennekens last edited by 31 Mar 2023, 05:26

                      @Con-Hennekens said in announcement of the distances:

                      Since "homograph" is a linguistic term, I think it is really plausible to assume it's coming from or has to do with the speech synthesis engin.

                      @Jörgen was the problem fixed after an iOS update or after an MRA update?

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                      • Jörgen
                        Jörgen Instructor last edited by 31 Mar 2023, 07:22

                        Yes, was gone after MRA Update.

                        https://forum.myrouteapp.com/post/21136

                        It is really strange that it is still there, with latest version (I believe you are up-to-date). I have no idea what this change triggers. May be deinstall and try a new installation.

                        My iOS is 16,3,1 on iPhone X.

                        Hardware
                        iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
                        Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                        Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                        Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                        Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                        For more information, click here

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                        • Mopetenpit
                          Mopetenpit last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 05:57

                          Now it's even better...
                          Since the last MRA update, the announcements from the iPhone 13 are also contaminated with "HomographStart" and "HomographEnd"! Except for Jörgen's entries, messages on this topic do not appear here. Am I the only one with this problem at the moment? It's actually unimaginable...

                          Herko ter Horst 1 Reply Last reply 19 Apr 2023, 07:55 Reply Quote 0
                          • Herko ter Horst
                            Herko ter Horst @Mopetenpit last edited by Herko ter Horst 19 Apr 2023, 07:56 19 Apr 2023, 07:55

                            @Mopetenpit There seems to be a bug in Apple's Text To Speech (TTS) functionality as of iOS 15.6, specific to the German language. All apps that use TTS have the same issue, it's not related to MRA. This thread over on the Apple forums offers some work-arounds that may help.

                            Mopetenpit Con Hennekens 2 Replies Last reply 19 Apr 2023, 08:51 Reply Quote 1
                            • Mopetenpit
                              Mopetenpit @Herko ter Horst last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 08:33

                              @Herko-ter-Horst
                              Many thanks for info! I'll find out more about it...

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                              • Con Hennekens
                                Con Hennekens @Herko ter Horst last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 08:51

                                @Herko-ter-Horst, Good find!

                                I am not affiliated with MyRoute-App. The help I am offering is entirely voluntary.
                                I am just an enthusiastic user, and hope you will be one too!

                                Most motorcycle problems are caused by the nut that connects the handlebar to the saddle.

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                                • Jörgen
                                  Jörgen Instructor last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 10:29

                                  Very interesting, that this is an iOS bug. I would like to know why the problem is gone after an iOS update. I am not sure which update it was, but I have now 16.3.1

                                  Hardware
                                  iPhone 12 pro (iOS 17.0.2)
                                  Oukitel RT3 (Andr. 12)
                                  Samsung Galaxy XCover 4 (Andr. 9 Pie)
                                  Wireless CarPlay mit (Elebest C650)
                                  Wired CarPlay (SEAT Arona - 2021)
                                  For more information, click here

                                  Herko ter Horst 1 Reply Last reply 19 Apr 2023, 14:34 Reply Quote 0
                                  • Herko ter Horst
                                    Herko ter Horst @Jörgen last edited by 19 Apr 2023, 14:34

                                    @Jörgen Maybe they fixed it in that update?

                                    Mopetenpit 1 Reply Last reply 8 May 2023, 06:26 Reply Quote 0
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                                    • Mopetenpit
                                      Mopetenpit @Herko ter Horst last edited by 8 May 2023, 06:26

                                      The "homograph" problem is not fixed for me, but I have a workaround: the iPhone (is only responsible for navigation) is now configured as an English iPhone. I receive the announcements in English and everything fits. Side effect: my English skills are refreshed... 😉

                                      Mopetenpit Richard 18 2 Replies Last reply 6 Jun 2023, 10:07 Reply Quote 1
                                      • Referenced by  Corjan Meijerink Corjan Meijerink 18 May 2023, 17:14
                                      • Mopetenpit
                                        Mopetenpit @Mopetenpit last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 05:36

                                        fyi: on the subject of "homograph": I downloaded the beta of TomTom Go Ride onto my iPhone. Here, too, I get the "homograph announcement"...

                                        Corjan Meijerink 1 Reply Last reply 6 Jun 2023, 06:35 Reply Quote 0
                                        • Corjan Meijerink
                                          Corjan Meijerink administrator @Mopetenpit last edited by 6 Jun 2023, 06:35

                                          @Mopetenpit Great - this really rules out any MRA related issue 🙂

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