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MRA V5.0.3 (449) The contrast is not sufficient

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  • Hubert Thoringundefined Offline
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    Hubert Thoring
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    wrote on last edited by Hubert Thoring
    #6

    Okay, so .. basically it would be good to be able to see the small roads better, it's about L and K and smaller roads
    Bild … 🥴

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    VG Hubert
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    • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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      #7

      Yeah, still don’t see the problem 🙂

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      • Hubert Thoringundefined Offline
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        wrote on last edited by
        #8

        I will try again on the next tour to make a better picture of the topic to make it visible.

        That's what it's about:

        Small streets / very small streets

        If you are on the road and have zoomed out further, it would be with more contrast or other colors for the small streets then perhaps to recognize them better so that there back, for example, on the right, a beautiful curvy road goes off ....

        Even at the age (I 66) you need more higher contrast pictures which is not yet an issue for you as a young biker !!

        But I am only one of many to many of the old users over 60 of the MRA app users.

        VG and good luck 👍

        VG Hubert
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        • Steve 2vundefined Offline
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          #9

          For me this has only been an issue on apple carplay devices, the largely white or grey roads when displayed on grey or white backgrounds like Vulf or Wong tend to lack contrast on these displays and make it harder to make out side roads for awareness. There have been posts about this in the past. The Dart colour scheme works better for me. The ideal solution would be to mark the edges of the road - something like a darker edge line.

          Still the best app though and I like everything else 🙂 Looking forward to testing the CarPlay enhancements that are coming

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          • Hubert Thoringundefined Offline
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            wrote on last edited by Hubert Thoring
            #10

            So, I avoid highways and main roads as much as possible, and these should be clearly visible on the display.

            Regarding Dart: The major roads, like main roads and country roads, are barely distinguishable; they're both yellow...

            Regarding Wong: The distinction between highways (red, wider) and main roads (red, narrow) to country roads (yellow) and small roads (yellow, narrow) is definitely a good start. However, the very small roads (white) are barely visible. In rural areas, this makes navigating the beautiful little roads (white) very confusing. If you haven't planned ahead and want to make a spontaneous turn, the road layout (white) is difficult to discern.

            Example at Möhnesee: The forest road, which is "beautiful to drive," is barely noticeable when driving past. It leads to "Franki's Hut," which is highly recommended.

            Link zur Frankis Hütte

            The turnoff from the south shore to the forest road is barely visible on the display!

            That then with sunshine is then on the way on the mobile phone / motorcycle often difficult to recognize.!!

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            VG Hubert
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            • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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              wrote on last edited by Corjan Meijerink
              #11

              I understand your point but I can think of a lot of examples where it would be absolutely a terrible idea if those minor roads are shown on these low zoomlevels…

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              • Hubert Thoringundefined Offline
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                wrote on last edited by Hubert Thoring
                #12

                It would be nice if you could turn it on or off.

                • Showing small streets more would be a solution if that would be against !!

                With Google Maps such a road is shown better ..

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                unten 👇 MRA

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                VG Hubert
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                • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Offline
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                  #13

                  Ah, yes. Another setting!

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                  • Lluis Arasanzundefined Offline
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                    #14

                    Hi all,

                    If I can say something about maps and colors is when Traffic density is shown.

                    If highway is red (o near red) color, is too difficult when driving to know if a traffic jam is ahead. If highway is yellow, the same with medium density traffic.

                    And even this is worst when night colored maps are used.

                    The rest of visibility, is more about device contrast and screen light.

                    I don’t know how difficult is code this colors or change how traffic is presented on screen .

                    But perhaps an alternated two color layer (red and white for example) can add more contrast to see traffic jam in a fast view to navigation screen.

                    Thanks and regards

                    Lluis Arasanz

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                    • Guzzistundefined Offline
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                      #15

                      Yes, the missing contrast is really a pitty. About the different colours for streets: I love the "Michelin-Style" in paper maps, because in an overview (less zoom) it's easy to orientate.
                      Highway = red/orange
                      primary roads = yellow
                      local roads = white

                      But yes, in case of traffic overlay (red and yellow) it may not easy to identify.

                      Nothing is impossible ;-)
                      In past: GARMIN Zumo 210->GARMIN Zumo 395->GARMIN XT=> now: DMD T865-X + MyRoute-App, LocusMaps, OsmAnd.
                      In past: GARMIN MapSource ->GARMIN BaseCamp->Tyre->Kurviger->Calimoto=> now: MRA-Routplanner.

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                      • ConiKostundefined Offline
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                        #16

                        I also would be very happy, if such option could be considered.

                        Shiny!

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                        • Corjan Meijerinkundefined Corjan Meijerink

                          So your screen has a glare in the sun?
                          Cannot do much about that 🙂

                          Reading the rpm on your bmw display is hard too with that lighting 😉

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                          wrote last edited by richtea999
                          #17

                          @Corjan-Meijerink said in MRA V5.0.3 (449) The contrast is not sufficient:

                          So your screen has a glare in the sun?
                          Cannot do much about that 🙂

                          Reading the rpm on your bmw display is hard too with that lighting 😉

                          1. Anti-glare film on the screen helps a lot. About 15 Euros.
                          2. Wong + 'Roads only' option in Map Style is quite high contrast (yellow roads on light grey background in light mode)
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                          • Hubert Thoringundefined Offline
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                            wrote last edited by Hubert Thoring
                            #18

                            @Corjan-Meijerink
                            I can't really take that first

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                            I use that but the contrast is still missing

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                            VG Hubert
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                            • Hubert Thoringundefined Offline
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                              wrote last edited by Hubert Thoring
                              #19

                              The contrast is unfortunately chosen...

                              The small white streets are not really good to spontaneously conquer a beautiful little street unplanned...

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                              Direction stretched by 180"

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                              VG Hubert
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                              • ConiKostundefined Offline
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                                #20

                                I also would like to add, as in comment #19 from Hubert, that those small white roads are really not very good to see. Maybe a litte bit different color could already help to make them see better.

                                Shiny!

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                                • Steve 2vundefined Offline
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                                  #21

                                  Adding my support to this - the low contrast in the standard maps does make me keep looking at other apps like scenic or OsmAnd

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                                  • Steve 2vundefined Steve 2v

                                    Adding my support to this - the low contrast in the standard maps does make me keep looking at other apps like scenic or OsmAnd

                                    Con Hennekensundefined Offline
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                                    #22

                                    @Steve-2v, Tried the different map-styles yet?

                                    I am just an enthusiastic MRA user, and hope you will be one too!

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                                    • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                      @Steve-2v, Tried the different map-styles yet?

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                                      @Con-Hennekens : They all behave the same, the matching map with more contrast is missing to be able to see the small streets well ...

                                      VG Hubert
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                                      • Con Hennekensundefined Con Hennekens

                                        @Steve-2v, Tried the different map-styles yet?

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                                        Yes, tried the different options. Ideally a map style like the DMD2 high contrast would be perfect. The use of light white roads on any of the maps that identify different road classes with colour like Wong for example are just hard to see. If they were grey (no other changes) i think it would solve a lot of the issues.

                                        I’ve ended up using a combo of DMD2 for most of my riding, but still use MRA now when I need traffic info to be factored in.

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